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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-younger, her life and relations
« Reply #30 on: December 27, 2004, 05:35:41 PM »
That's true. If it hadn't said who it was, I wouldn't have known. Anyone think he looks a little like Maria Pavlova or other Romanovs?

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« Reply #31 on: December 28, 2004, 03:57:46 AM »
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That's true. If it hadn't said who it was, I wouldn't have known. Anyone think he looks a little like Maria Pavlova or other Romanovs?


Hmm, I think you may be right.  I can certainly see a bit of MP in that photo of the infant Lennart; this photo is very similar to the ones of Alexei as an infant.  It would seem that in 1910 (which I think is roughly the date of this photo), parents were still dressing infant boys like girls....................
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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-younger, her life and relations
« Reply #32 on: December 28, 2004, 06:27:12 PM »
I'm sorry to hear he died, but I didn't know he was still alive. He had a good long life. Thanks for all the pics and info.

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« Reply #33 on: January 09, 2005, 09:25:41 AM »
The New York Times published a belated obituary of Lennart today with a photo.

Count Lennart Bernadotte, who gave up his royal Swedish title to marry a commoner but gained an Edenic island that he built into a tourist attraction, died on Dec. 21 on Mainau, the island he had gardened in Lake Constance, Germany, for over half a century. He was 95. The death was announced by the foundation he formed to administer the 96-acre island, which had been in and out of the possession of the Swedish crown since the end of the Thirty Years' War in the 17th century. The island's palmy climate - rare for Europe north of the Alps - inspired its owners in the mid-1800's to cultivate rare plants and start an arboretum, an Italian rose garden and an orangery. Grand Duke Friedrich I of Baden, grandfather of Lennart Bernadotte, added exotic flowers and trees. The park today attracts more than a million visitors each year. Born Gustaf Lennart Nicolaus Paul in Stockholm on May 8, 1909, he was the only child of Prince Wilhelm of Sweden and Grand Duchess Marie Pavlovna of Russia. After his parents' divorce, his uncle and aunt, King Gustaf V and Queen Victoria of Sweden, took over his upbringing. His family entrusted its property on Mainau, an island in Lake Constance, to his care in 1932. The 208-square-mile lake, which is also known as Bodensee, is fed and drained by the Rhine and borders on Germany, Switzerland and Austria. The count had already studied horticulture and later pursued ecology, filmmaking and photography. Most of the picture postcards on Mainau came from his camera. In 1932, he also married over his parents' objections Karin Nissvandt, an industrialist's daughter. They had four children before divorcing in 1970; she died in 1991. He spent World War II in Sweden, then returned to Mainau and transformed the island into a tourist destination. In 1951 he was given the title Count of Wisborg from the Grand Duchess of Luxembourg. In 1972 he married his assistant, Sonja Haunz, with whom he had five more children. He withdrew from daily operations of the island in the 1980's. The couple entrusted the island and everything on it to the Lennart Bernadotte Foundation, which they formed in 1974. His wife, who helped make the garden a prosperous enterprise, was named co-manager in 1982. Other survivors are two daughters, Birgitta and Cecilia, and a son, Jan, from his first marriage; and Bettina, Bjorn Wilhelm, Catharina, Christian Wolfgang and Diana, from his second marriage, according to the Bernadotte Foundation.


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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-younger, her life and relations
« Reply #34 on: January 09, 2005, 11:22:09 AM »
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Grand Duke Friedrich I of Baden, grandfather of Lennart Bernadotte, added exotic flowers and trees. ...After his parents' divorce, his uncle and aunt, King Gustaf V and Queen Victoria of Sweden, took over his upbringing.


Wasn't Friedrich actually his great-grandfather? And Gustav and Victoria his grandparents?

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-younger, her life and relations
« Reply #35 on: January 09, 2005, 12:08:02 PM »
I believe so, GDE. Lennart would have been a great grandson to the Grand Duke of Baden who fathered his grandmother, Princess Victoria of Baden who later was  Queen Victoria of Sweden. The later was the grandmother (not the aunt as the obit says) who raised Lennart after Maria P left Sweden with her divorce to return to Russia. Victoria of Sweden died around 1930 after which the Isle of Mainau became the property of her son Wilhelm. The latter hired son Lennart to manage the property for him. From there, in the info in the obit seems correct.

As to all of the comments about what kind of mother MP was, it seems to me that long separations typified hers and Lennart's relationship. She was visiting him at Mainau when she died, so I think it's a mistake to call them estranged. Circumstances dictated many of their separations, and she made sure he was taken care of.

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« Reply #36 on: January 13, 2005, 07:46:48 PM »
I sent an e-mail to the NY Times to point out the errors. That newspaper is obsessive about printing corrections!

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-younger, her life and relations
« Reply #37 on: February 11, 2005, 09:01:42 AM »
Hi everyone,. I'm writing a book about the GD Maria Pavlovna  the younger..My other two books The young hearts: The last Tsar's childen and Elisabeth:The forgotten German Princess are still in progress...

so any pics and Facts about Marie,..that would be great!!!

Thank you!! :)

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« Reply #38 on: February 11, 2005, 10:14:44 AM »
Maria Pavlovna, Grand Duchess of Russia.

6 April 1890, Sankt Peterburg.
13 December 1958, Schloss Mainau near Konstanz.

Parents
Pavel Alexandrovich, Grand Duke of Russia ( 1860-1919)
Alexandra Georgievna of Greece, Grand Duchess. (1870-1891)

Marriages
    Vilhelm of Sweden, Duke of Södermanland
    Married: 3 May 1908, Sankt-Peterburg
    Divorced: 1914
    Sergei Mihailovich, Prince Putyatin
    Married: 19 September 1917, Pavlovsk
    Divorced: 1924
Children
    1st Marriage: Lennart Gustaf Nicholas, Count of Wisborg (1909-2004)
    2nd Marriage: Roman Sergeevich, Prince Putyatin (1918-1919)
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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-younger, her life and relations
« Reply #39 on: February 11, 2005, 11:27:51 AM »
In Sweden she was an HIH, which wasnt very popular within the swedish royal family.
Some people say she was selfish and could be unpleasant, but i dont know that much about her.

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« Reply #40 on: February 11, 2005, 11:55:43 AM »
I am reading the first volume of her autobiography, "Education of a Princess" right now.  She seems nice and is very caring about the patients that she nursed during the war.  But there has been almost no mention of the son she left in Sweden.  A puzzling woman.  I will be looking for the 2nd volume soon.  I am interested in finding out how she lived after she escaped from Russia.

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-younger, her life and relations
« Reply #41 on: February 11, 2005, 01:27:22 PM »
I agree, puzzling woman and Grand Duchess. My opinion she was a fighter...for life of her own.
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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-younger, her life and relations
« Reply #42 on: February 11, 2005, 04:46:57 PM »
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Hi everyone,. I'm writing a book about the GD Maria Pavlovna  the younger..My other two books The young hearts: The last Tsar's childen and Elisabeth:The forgotten German Princess are still in progress...

so any pics and Facts about Marie,..that would be great!!!

Thank you!! :)


How exciting, Mandie! I wish you the best of luck with your writing! Are they going to be picture books, or more like bios?

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-younger, her life and relations
« Reply #43 on: February 11, 2005, 05:01:04 PM »
Mandie, there are wonderful  stories about her and her father-in-law. He loved her.  The  people of Sweden were very happy when she wore their colors , reaching Stockholm.

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-younger, her life and relations
« Reply #44 on: February 12, 2005, 07:50:50 AM »
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Maria Pavlovna, Grand Duchess of Russia.

6 April 1890,  Sankt-Peterburg
13 December 1958,  Schloss Mainau near Konstanz

Parents
Paul Alexandrovich, Grand Duke of Russia ( 1860-1919)
Alexandra Georgievna of Greece (1870-1891)

Marriages
    Vilhelm of Sweden, Duke of Södermanland
    Married: 3 May 1908, Sankt-Peterburg
    Divorced: 1914
    Sergei Mihailovich, Prince Putyatin
    Married: 19 September 1917, Pavlovsk
    Divorced: 1924
Children
    1st Marriage: Lennart Gustaf Nicholas, Count of Wisborg (1909-2005)
    2nd Marriage: Roman Sergeevich, Prince Putyatin (1918-1919)


Darth Olga: Excellent writeup - one minor mistake.  Prince Lennart passed away in December 2004 not 2005.

Do you know where Marie's 2nd son Prince Putyatin Sergeevich was born and died?  And was there anything in particular the baby died of?  I remember reading somewhere that the baby was with his grandmother (father's mother) on the run from the bolsheviks - which is reason enough for a baby to die I guess...

thanks so much.

dca