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« Reply #45 on: February 14, 2005, 07:55:48 PM »
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How exciting, Mandie! I wish you the best of luck with your writing! Are they going to be picture books, or more like bios?


A picture book :)

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-younger, her life and relations
« Reply #46 on: February 14, 2005, 08:31:11 PM »
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In Sweden she was an HIH, which wasnt very popular within the swedish royal family.
Some people say she was selfish and could be unpleasant, but i dont know that much about her.


It was said that she compared unfavorably with her sister-in-law 'Daisy' Connaught and this didn't help her. She seemed to like many of her in-laws and have a good relationship with Gustav V (I think he settled an allowance on her even though she since wanted the divorce they could've paid nothing).

She apparently thought that she would have a much freer life than she enjoyed under Ella's guardianship when she married and was bitterly disappointed to find that it didn't work that way. The court could be very rigid and at the same time lacking in the glamour of St Petersburg society. This influenced a lot of her recollections about her marriage later on--she seemed more amenable to it than usually assumed.

If you need any images, let me know as I have a pretty fair number of her (alone and with Wilhelm and/or Lennart). Not her childhood really or her later life but that in-between period. I'd be glad to lend them to you.  :)

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-younger, her life and relations
« Reply #47 on: February 15, 2005, 07:48:52 PM »
Thanks for the facts ;D ;D,..but doesn't anyone have pictures? Pretty please post them..

THANK YOU!! :)

P.S I'm sure that I would give thanks to thos how help me with my books......

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-younger, her life and relations
« Reply #48 on: February 17, 2005, 05:51:51 AM »
One of my favourite pics of Maria Pavlovna


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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-younger, her life and relations
« Reply #49 on: February 17, 2005, 05:54:07 AM »
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Darth Olga: Excellent writeup - one minor mistake.  Prince Lennart passed away in December 2004 not 2005.

Do you know where Marie's 2nd son Prince Putyatin Sergeevich was born and died?  And was there anything in particular the baby died of?  I remember reading somewhere that the baby was with his grandmother (father's mother) on the run from the bolsheviks - which is reason enough for a baby to die I guess...

thanks so much.

dca


Her 2d son Roman was born in Russia. He died in Roumania becouse of typhoid.

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-younger, her life and relations
« Reply #50 on: February 17, 2005, 07:38:27 AM »
BTW, a sad fact about Maria Pavlovna.It came out of S.Scott's book "The Romanovs".The author considers that Maria was abused by Axel Munte while being on Capri.Scott refers to her lady-in-waiting's statement  ???

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-younger, her life and relations
« Reply #51 on: February 17, 2005, 09:13:46 AM »
By the way, Grant Menzies wrote a wonderful bio of her for us some years ago.  Her close friend, Countess de Bruniere, mentioned in the piece, was my own "Tante Lili" who mentioned her to me often, and had many books and other possessions which had been GD Maria Pavlovna's.

http://www.alexanderpalace.org/palace/mariepavlovna.html

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-younger, her life and relations
« Reply #52 on: February 17, 2005, 09:28:41 AM »





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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-younger, her life and relations
« Reply #53 on: February 17, 2005, 09:29:11 AM »
with William of Sweden




with Lennart
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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-younger, her life and relations
« Reply #54 on: February 17, 2005, 01:21:56 PM »
All of these pictures are so wonderful!!  My favorite is the one of Maria Pavlovna, Jr. with her dog....she must have loved it very much to have a formal picture like that made.  So therefore I love the picture of Maria and William with the same dog.  I am just a dog LOVER!!  But thank you Grandduchesslla and Svetabel.
....and ROB I would love to know a lot more about your tante Lili!! Tell ALL please.              ..Arleen

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-younger, her life and relations
« Reply #55 on: February 17, 2005, 02:32:27 PM »
Great Pictures of Marie Pavlova and her family and especially with the ones of her father and mother.

Are there pictures of her and her brother in later years?  how was her relationship with Dimitri? how was her relationship with her father after his second marriage?  Are there pictures of her and the imperial family or with the girls OTMA or Alexei?  

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-younger, her life and relations
« Reply #56 on: February 18, 2005, 05:04:08 AM »
Maria Pavlovna in 1953 in Paris with GD Andrey Vladimirovitch and Mathilda Kshessinskaya


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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-younger, her life and relations
« Reply #57 on: February 21, 2005, 12:52:08 PM »
I would like to see more photos of her as a little girl. I know there are a couple of nice ones in the book The Camera and the Tsars but I would like to see more, as they are rare to me.

From her photographs, she strikes me as such a sweet and nice young woman, usually smiling in such a friendly fashion. I am reading Education of a Princess for the first time and in it she also seems so lively and possessing a great sense of humor, enjoying practical jokes, etc. This is quite in contrast to the portrait of her in Argentina, when she was portrayed by the little girl who lived with her as such an arrogant and cold woman. Of course, the bitterness of the years probably hardened her.

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-younger, her life and relations
« Reply #58 on: February 22, 2005, 11:46:29 AM »
Hi, I just wanna tell you guys that I pick a title for the book :The Passion of a Royal Lady: The story of Grand Duchess Marie. :)

what do you think??
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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-younger, her life and relations
« Reply #59 on: February 27, 2005, 04:54:28 PM »
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Hi, I just wanna tell you guys that I pick a title for the book :The Passion of a Royal Lady: The story of Grand Duchess Marie. :)

what do you think??


OR The Passion of a Royal Princess?

I would like all you of your opinions please!