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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-younger, her life and relations
« Reply #420 on: June 26, 2010, 01:41:08 PM »
She mentioned in her memoirs that she took them to a party once, to help them improve their spirits, but it didn't work out as she hoped. Also, I believe Irina and Natalia were present when she left Paris.
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« Reply #421 on: June 26, 2010, 03:00:56 PM »
I wonder what Marie thought of Natalie's film career ?

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-younger, her life and relations
« Reply #422 on: June 26, 2010, 06:04:07 PM »
Was Maria Pavlovna in contact with the 2 Paley sisters after the revolution, in exile?

She was in contact with their mother Olga Paley and obviously from time to time meet her half-sisters.

I wonder if Olga care for Marie? that they had some type of love for each other. I know  for a fact that Olga and Dmitri both disliked each other.

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-younger, her life and relations
« Reply #423 on: June 27, 2010, 06:19:29 AM »
Was Maria Pavlovna in contact with the 2 Paley sisters after the revolution, in exile?

She was in contact with their mother Olga Paley and obviously from time to time meet her half-sisters.

I wonder if Olga care for Marie? that they had some type of love for each other. I know  for a fact that Olga and Dmitri both disliked each other.

Somewhere I read Dmitriy called Olga "Mama".

I think Olga didn't care much for Maria,in her memoirs she mentions Maria once or twice as a background person. Maria herself thought that step-mother liked her...who knows all that now...

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-younger, her life and relations
« Reply #424 on: June 27, 2010, 07:50:45 AM »
thats kind of sad.

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« Reply #425 on: June 28, 2010, 10:51:20 AM »
Well I think they liked each other from a distance but definitely not close. Both Olga and Marie were strong charecters themselves.

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« Reply #426 on: July 03, 2010, 03:44:22 PM »
I read that Dmitry called Olga Paley Mamushka or some such name whenever he visited her. She wrote in her memoirs that he was very knowledgeable, pleasant,  and clever etc. But Dmitry would write letters to the Tsar that were pretty acerbic in nature and basically said he didn't care whether he ever saw them, etc. It's hard to say what either of them thought of each other in honesty, because it seems to me Dmitri would play up some things to make Nicholas laugh, or to agree with him, but would then be very nice to Olga P to her face. But also we keep in mind, people's feelings are not the same all the time, and perhaps their opinions of each other changed quite a bit over time. It would not be difficult to imagine that the woman who essentially took away his father, Dmitry would have mixed and complex feelings about. So I think the same general idea could be applied to Maria as well. I think Maria felt strongly about many people in her life, but this doesn't mean she ever makes up her mind for good about how she feels.

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-younger, her life and relations
« Reply #427 on: July 04, 2010, 12:48:24 AM »
A new version of the photo of King George of Greece & Grand Duchess Marie Pavlovna




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« Reply #428 on: July 04, 2010, 02:06:02 PM »
I don't know if they were close or not ?

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« Reply #429 on: July 05, 2010, 03:09:52 AM »
Did Marie Pavlovna and Dimitri see much of their Greek relations?

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« Reply #430 on: July 05, 2010, 03:23:15 PM »
I think so. Greek Minny mentioned Marie in her memoirs, and she considered her a bit spoiled.

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-younger, her life and relations
« Reply #431 on: July 05, 2010, 05:44:40 PM »
I think more in her early years and childhood, mostly two people, her grandmother Queen Olga and young uncle Prince Christopher. Marie also did mention Grand Duchess Helen (whom is also her first cousin) as "Aunt".

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« Reply #432 on: July 05, 2010, 05:59:11 PM »
Yes. Since she was her uncle Nicholas's wife and a bit older than she was. Missy also gave Ella the title of Aunt since she married her uncle Serge.

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« Reply #433 on: July 16, 2010, 08:45:32 AM »
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« Reply #434 on: August 14, 2010, 10:22:55 PM »
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