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Thank you for your answer. I think until now there was nobody else, who had an explanation for that phenomen that Archduke Carl Ludwig is/was the only son of the emperor, who is buried (or will be buried) in Vienna in the Kaisergruft. There are now only some days left.
But yes, that sounds logical. Is the birth under the reign of Karl I. the offcial reason or is this speculated? You will know it. It seems, as it sounds, this is the really the official arguement. I would not have expected it, but to be honest, I also did not think about such a reason.

You're lucky that you have the possibility to attend the funeral. Even some family members don't have the possibility, as I know.
Any infos, how the funeral proceeds would be appreciated. Maybe you can give some infos here, after you took part in the event.

That would be nice. Thank you, Eurohistory!
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Issue LXI – February 2008 of The European Royal History Journal will have not only an obituary of the Archduke Carl Ludwig, but also a photo section on his life and funeral. The same is to be done for dom Pedro Gastão d'Orléans-Bragança.

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Yes, I still have in mind to once make an abonnement of your magazine....! ::)
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Videos:
http://www.gloria.tv/?video=fnzbwb0mbghjoxyapoms

http://tv.orf.at/ondemand/

click on "Wien heute" then choose date 12.01.2008.
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Anybody know where he was buried?

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Anybody know where he was buried?

It's in both video's,the Kapuzinergruft,as is custom for members of the House.He is interred next to his mother,the Empress Zita.
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Really? There wasn't much space near her coffin. Are you sure?

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Thank you for the video, Lucien. I already had seen a report on it, but this was very impressing, too. Thank you. I'm not really sure, if he really sleeps next to his mother, but it was said in the film, and yes, I think so. As far as I remember the place, there are already many sarcophags from earlier times, but there will still be space for the Archduke, so I suppose.
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The clerical procession into the St.Stephans Dom:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iPEi_77j8Q&feature=related

Very moving,the Imperial Hymne:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngLx-hHK1nM&NR=1

Imperial Regimental Banners:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnvoalC9aSY&feature=related

Procession into the Kapuzinergruft,thousands thronged the streets.Imperial Austria is still very much alive:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHdY9nDSbQo&NR=1

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Those videos are wonderful, very impressing, I left a comment, thank you, Lucien for being so nice to post the links here.
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Vienna is a very large city. To have a few thousand in the streets is not many compared to the large number who live there.

Population statistics show in late 2007 Vienna having a population of 1.674.595
Source : STATISTIK AUSTRIA, Statistik des Bevölkerungsstandes. Erstellt am: 12.11.2007.

This funeral of a member of the defunct former imperial house was a rare and colourful evening event and people turned out due to curiosity. There is no sentiment in Austria for a return to the days of the monarchy. It is now nearly 90 years since the monarchy was abolished. Tourists  and some locals like the trappings of the past and there is a certain nostalgia always in Austria from clothing to food and beyond. Austrians are a people attached to certain traditions. There is no active movement though, with support from all classes of the people, for any form of restoration. The current republic has been in existence since 1955. It works well with minimal fuss. There is no mass movement to abolish it. This funeral was a reminder of pre November 1918 imperial history.

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Dmitri why do you have to be such a wowser?
A man from a very special background passed away and his country men honoured him!
God rest hs soul!

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I truly wish that he rests in peace as well. It is perhaps a touch melodramatic to read too much else into his passing. A very small minority of his countrymen honoured him.

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May he rest in peace.

Lucien, thank you for posting these video's.
Does anyone have the words to the Kaiser's Hymne and by whom and when it was composed?

thanks.