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Offline Maximilano

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After asking quite some questions right and left I got the answer referring to the burial of Archduke Carl Ludwig in the Kapuziner Gruft in Vienna.

Kaiser Karl, as emperor of Austria in 1917 financed the widening of the burial site so that all his 8 children wife and himself could fit in the Kapuziner Gruft. The first of the children to die was Archduchess Adelheit (1971) who loved Austria but certainly not the Kapuziner Gruft. She expresly refused to be buried there. Archduke Robert was the same. He really did not like the burial site full with all those tourists so he requested to be sent to rest in Peace in Muri Switzerland where the second largest burial sites of the Habsburgs is found. This is in a convent and is not open to the public. Archduchess Xenia and Anne Eugenie are also there, together with Xenia’s son Johannes. Eventually Archduke Felix and Archduke Rudolf will be set to rest in Muri together with their defunct wifes.

Archduke Carl Ludwig had a special attachment to the Kapuziner Gruft and was his express wish to be there.

Archduke Otto will be sent to the Kapuziner Gruft together with Archduchess Regina.

Muri's burial site is also quite full and will not accommodate all 33 grand children of Kaiser Karl and Kaiserin Zita. They will have to rest in peace somewhere else.



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Archduke Otto will be sent to the Kapuziner Gruft together with Archduchess Regina.

I thinks that´s pure speculation at this time (which we shouldn´t do in respect for Archduke Otto), or do you have any proof for this?

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Singing Tantum Ergo at a Funeral Mass is odd, but if Carl requested it, that explains why it was sung. The Imperial Hymn was sung outside the crypt just before the coffin was carried in - at least I think it was if heard correctly on the Youtube video I watched. The Imperial Hymn is known as the Volkshymne in German?

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Archduke Otto will be sent to the Kapuziner Gruft together with Archduchess Regina.

I thinks that´s pure speculation at this time (which we shouldn´t do in respect for Archduke Otto), or do you have any proof for this?

TWS,

Of course I don't have proof of this because both Archduke Otto and his wife Regina are very much alive. None the less I have been told by a reliable source (for me at least) that both Archduke Otto & Regina will eventually be there as well as Kaiser Karl, but he will take longer; until he is Sanctified and if the people of Fungal (Madeira) let him part.

Do you  have any suggestion where Archduke Otto could eventually be buried?

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Archduke Otto himself does not tell where he wants to be buried, so how can I know?

But he told several times that Emperor Karl will rest on Madeira.

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Archduke Martin and Archduchess Katharina of Austria (she was born a princess of Isenburg) welcomed their second son, Archduke Emanuel. The boy was born in Pavia, Italy, on February 15, 2008.

The wedding of Archduke Martin and Archduchess Katharina, which I attended in 2004, was a grand affair at Isenburg, with more than 200 royals in attendance. The ERHJ had a full-color report of this event in the June 2004 issue.

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Thank you for that information. Congratulation to the parents!! I hope they have a healthy and happy child.

Please post links, if there are pictures!

« Last Edit: March 09, 2008, 12:40:13 PM by britt.25 »
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Eurohistory,
  How do you know personally so many royals?  I am new to this forum.  I understand from your prior messages that you write books on royals?  What Royals have you personally met?  It would be great if you could have a thread where you tell of your personal experiences with Royals and share any photos you have taken of them.  What are some of the names of books you written?  Thanks.  I hope I am not being too nosy.

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Thank you for that information. Congratulation to the parents!! I hope they have a healthy and happy child.

Please post links, if there are pictures!

HI&RH Archduke Emmanuel Achatius Franz Alexander,born Pavia february 15th.

btw,princess Jil,if you have any personal questions would you mind and use the PM,as I know you are new here,you probably were not aware of that possibility.
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I have seen pictures of Archduke Martin in the different journals. Archduke Martin must be well over 2 meters and his wife the Archduchess is close to 2 meters. How tall will HI&RH Archduke Emmanuel Achatius Franz Alexander be when grown up?

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According to my calculations the new Archduke is eleventh in the line of succession and yes indeed, no doubt he will be extremely tall when he grows up!

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I just had a look at the Isenburg family tree and found out that Katharina is a descedant of Leopold II. Grandduke of Tuscany.
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True, and also of Counts Tolstoi.
Lots of russian ancestors.

I just looked up to the 7th generation but one can go far beyond.

http://geneweb.inria.fr/roglo?lang=pt&m=A&i=1813093&v=7&t=N&sosab=10&siblings=on&notes=on&src=on&bd=0&color=

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I'm making the announcement to all our members that Archduke Ramon von Habsburg has passed away yesterday after fighting three years against his illness, Leucemia.

Archduke Ramon was the fourth child and second son of Archduke Felix, himself son of emperor Karl I. and empress Zita. 

He was born in Mexico, on January 28 th, 1958 and married Bettine Götz in 1994, having three children:

Archduke Felix, Archduchess Maria Theresa and Archduchess Sophia (They are to see on the thread about the descendants of Archduke Felix)


From what I know Archduke Ramon is described as having been a very human person, a good husband, and a father of a very great kindness, that one could wish that more people in our world were like that.

Let us pray for his family and siblings that they find a way to come through the hard time of having lost their closest relative.
« Last Edit: April 25, 2008, 02:23:50 AM by britt.25 »
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My Sympathies to the Family! Thanks Britt for posting this.