re: past lives?

[Mander]

Now wait a second! My kitty just told me HE was Joy! One of you are fibbing to me!!


I have no reall passionate feelings about reincarnation one way or the other. I do believe that the world is full of things that we can't explain and I try to be open minded to it. I don't believe in little green men but I do think that in this vast universe it's very hard to believe we're the only living creatures in it. However, that's for another topic. My point is that there are some things science can't explain away.

I tend to shy away from people who claim to be Titanic Reincarnates, Romanov Reincarnates or anyone else famous. I've seen many show's in which small children know and talk about things they couldn't possibly know about. One in particular comes to mind that I believe the child was in England. He was about 3 or so and knew all about WW2 airplanes, bombing missions and said he'd died in a plane crash. Somehow they traced it to a particular persion but it escapes me of how. These are more the things that make me wonder. Unless coached extensivly by an adult it's very difficult for a child of that age to make up such stories.

By the same coin; however, we also know very little in regards to the mind and how the brain works. I think it's just one of those things that we probably aren't meant to understand yet will always intrigue us:)

[Cecilia]

Oh I certainly believe in reincarnation. As far as the reincarnations of the Romanovs, you should all consult Donald Norsic's book "To save Russia: The reincarnation of Czar Nicholas." He is very believable, from what I've heard. Even if he isn't the reincarnation of Nicholas II, He's still got some amazing memories and past life trangression stories. One way or the other, I know for a fact that our soul survives death.

I believe we all come into life(this world, or any other in this infinite universe), choosing what we look like, our parents, our children, our friends, and major and minor events that will speed us to self peace, which is the ultimate goal.

You all might think I'm a little weird or sick in the head; believe what you want, one way or the other, you'll all find out the truth, the real truth, soon enough.

Much love,

Cecilia~

[Mander]

I've often wondered if reincarnation may work on the same grounds as ghosts. (Now don't you laugh;) ) If one's life is cut tragically short and you didn't get your chance to live. You weren't ready to pass on.

[Cecilia]

Maybe...I don't know~ I always thought, though, that ghosts were spirits that didn't know they were dead, or refused to acknowledge it. Spirits are the one's that have already crossed over the "barrier" so to speak, and are actually the one's that exist in the spirit realm. But who knows? Really interesting though!

Cecilia~

[Russian_Duchess_#5]

Cecilia and Mander, your last comments that you posted on this thread have been very insightful and full of knowledge.
Cecilia, I don't understand how someone as old as me can know so much about what comes after we (well, our bodies) die?!
All I have to say to both of you is, my thoughts exactly.  
A little touch-up on the theories of ghosts:
If you do believe in ghosts, well thats your decision, I personally don't know. I have experienced ghost-like encounters, but all that stuff about actually "haunting" for no reason other than to scare people out of their wits, is, in my opinion, very wrong.
I know, that this is the ghost theory that was see in movies only, but still, since we were getting into the subject of ghosts....
If when the spirits (of the ghosts) were alive, and lets say they died a tragic and early death (which is usually what brings them to "haunt"), do you think that they would not like to rest in peace after that horrible death that they were just succumbed to?! Of course they would want to RIP!!
Also, when people (sorry if there is not another name for these things, but I am not so familiar with the Bible and it's stories) have encountered Jesus Christ, after he is no longer alive, but resurrected, for lack of a better word, weren't those ghostly encounters?
So, thats why I don't think that there are "ghosts". Who would be one?
I think that the encounters which people like me have experienced are more of something else than the whole "haunting" sequences.

Sofia

[Cecilia]

Thank you Russian Duchess, and I will answer your PM in a little while I'm just really tired right now but still need to get my point across...you know how it goes! lol

Anyways, Ghost are spirits that either don't know and/or refuse to acknowledge they are dead (like I have already said ) and have not already passed through the tunnel that leads across from each body to carry their soul Home the moment they take their last breaths. They can not reincarnate again, and are miserable, lost souls. From what I know, and the many obsessive readings I've done on this subject this is you can tell a typical ghosts apart from a spirit.

~If the presence seems even slightly unhappy, angry, meanspirited or disontent, it's a ghost.

~Because the other side (where spirits are, and ghosts aren't) is about 3-4 feet above and parallel to our ground, when you see a spirit, you'll notice that it seems to be floating above the ground. The truth is, it's simply moving along level of the Other Side. Ghosts, on the other hand, are likely to shuffle along right down here with us, not floating a few feet above it.

~And because they are closer to earth's vibrational frequency than the higher, vibrant frequency of Home, ghosts are easier to perceive than spirits are, so most of the time when you see an unknown entity, it's a ghost.

[Georgiy]

Hi Russian Duchess 5. The encounters with CHrist after His resurrection were not ghostly encounters, as He was resurrected and not just a spirit. He ate and drank after His resurrection. St Thomas the Apostle touched and felt His wounds. The Orthodox Christian Faith does not accept reincarnation. It professes that all the dead will be resurrected and transfigured however at the end of the ages - the flesh reuniting with the soul dwelling eternally with God. For some dwelling eternally with God will be paradise, for others it will be Hell as we procure for ourselves our future state by how we live here. If we have lived our lives turning away from God, then to be eternally 'stuck' with Him would indeed be unbearable.

[Merrique]

Being pagan there is something about reincarnation that has always boggled my mind.I do belive in reincarnation by the way.

Anywho what I was wondering is this....The common belief in reincarnation is that you come back already having picking out your parents,children,friends and what not,and the experiences you want to live through to advance your soul in it's continuing quest to gain more knowledge to eventually evolve enough to be with the creator/god/goddess or whoever you choose to call it.
Now here's the thing that gets me.They say we all have certain lessons to learn in each life.But the question is this....if you are a murder victim,especially an innocent person/child,like the Romanov children,who's learning the lesson here.The murdered victim or the person that took their life?

[MichaelB]

I have had a past life regression done via hypnosis. It proved to be an interesting event. It was witnessed and documented. I spoke perfect french (am a native English speaker and can't normally hold a conversation in French) at one point and with a strange accent and total different quality of voice at another. According to the transcription at one time I appeared to be "in between lives". At this juncture I spoke with what was described as an "Ethereal tone to the voice" that I had the "appearance of complete peace" and that I described this as the "Place that we know all". I'm not sure how true any of it was, possibly genetic memory or something like that. From the transcription it does not appear that the therapist was asking leading questions or trying to influence my answers. Kind of fun. I wonder if I did it again if I would say the same things or be the "same" people.

Merrique - maybe "society" was who learned a lesson from that.

Mikey

[Cecilia]

Being pagan there is something about reincarnation that has always boggled my mind.I do belive in reincarnation by the way.
 
Anywho what I was wondering is this....The common belief in reincarnation is that you come back already having picking out your parents,children,friends and what not,and the experiences you want to live through to advance your soul in it's continuing quest to gain more knowledge to eventually evolve enough to be with the creator/god/goddess or whoever you choose to call it.
Now here's the thing that gets me.They say we all have certain lessons to learn in each life.But the question is this....if you are a murder victim,especially an innocent person/child,like the Romanov children,who's learning the lesson here.The murdered victim or the person that took their life?

I always thought that we choose everything about our lives before we reincarnate. As in, we choose our birth and death, and every moment in between. "It's all for the experience." Sometimes, though, there can be accidents, yet, in the Romanov case, I think they all choose it. But, that's just me.  

[Russian_Duchess_#5]

I never mentioned this, but when I was small, every night, I had dreams of being shot in the head, at always the exact location of the skull.
The firey, searing pain of the bullet would not only exist in my dream-state, but also when I was awake and walking.
I believe that cells have memories. Such as phantom limb pain when one has an amputated limb.
I also always had an uncontrollable rage toward certain people, even if I hadn't known them before. Always the same kind of people though; especially certain babies.
It all depended on the way they looked, it brought back uncomfortable memories that I could not decipher.
Slowly, since I have become older and older, the same dream of being shot in the head without notice began to fade away, slowly....instead of experiencing it each night, it would be every other day, then 3 times a week, and so on.
I still have the pain of the "bullet" through my skull, though.
I remember having dreams of being Abraham Lincoln and being shot (also in the head), though I don't believe I was him.
Everyitme I see disembodied hair, just the texture of it, and the way it looks, reminds me of something I can't quite tell, but it is an uncomfortable feeling, when I see dead hair.
I must have a regression!

Sofia

[xX_Mashka_Xx]

It's so ridiculous, all these people who claim to be Romanovs, especially when there's 10 people all claiming to be the same person. As for these Romanov claimants who publish books and websites with all their "memories", that's all these people are, claimants. Many of them, it's obvious from the start that they're not the real thing.

[Russian_Duchess_#5]

But, this is the past lives thread.... why did you post that here? We are not Imperial Claimants.   It's just a discussion, jeez.

Sofia

[Romanov_fan]

It's so ridiculous, all these people who claim to be Romanovs, especially when there's 10 people all claiming to be the same person. As for these Romanov claimants who publish books and websites with all their "memories", that's all these people are, claimants. Many of them, it's obvious from the start that they're not the real thing.

That is very true! My words exactly! But this is more of a ''was I a Romanov in a past life thread?'' But yes, claimants are exactly what you say.

[Nanastasia]

The reincarnation that you are talking about is the ''new age'' theory. I studied asian religions at school. The new age was strongly influenced by asian religions. In the new age, the reincarnation is a [highlight]positive[/highlight] thing. It help you become a PERFECT person. Through your lives, you become more and more complete. BUT, in buddhism and Hindouism, it is a [highlight]negative[/highlight] thing. You reincarnate when you are attached to material things and to sensations.You have to detached yourself to everything to live an illumination and reunite yourself with Brahman(in hindhouism it is the ultimate reality. Brahman is everything.) You have to belive that things are not diffent from each other. It is a little bit complicated to explain and understand!
Jst taught I would tell you the difference! The ''new age'' changed the signification of reincarnation.