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Princess Poutiatin
« on: September 07, 2004, 05:58:47 PM »
I was wondering if any one had information on this side  of the family. I have had a vague discreption since my grandmother has died. She was the one who carried the name. From my understanding they were cousins. Any help would be appreciated

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Re: Princess Poutiatin
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2004, 06:13:19 PM »
Is Poutiatine the name i was a tad bit confused if so tell us what you know. :)

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« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2004, 08:25:27 PM »
I have in my possession a book which contains exerpts from Countess Olga Poutiatine diaries and letters.

The book is titled: War and Revolution, by George Lensen, Diplomatic Press 1971

It is a very small book which details conditions she found in Russian military hospitals during 1915, followed by her Red Cross experiences in the summer of 1917. Her impressions also detail her progressive feelings during this period, initially welcoming the February Revolution, her disillusionment with Kerensky's Government and finally a feeling of hostility towards the Communist regime. The book does contain a few family photographs.
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« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2004, 03:41:13 PM »
The second husband of Grand Duchess Marie (younger) was a prince of the Poutiatine family.

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« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2005, 05:14:31 PM »
I've been reading Marie Pavlovna's memoirs and was wondering about the history of the Putiatin family.  When and how did they become princes?

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« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2005, 12:59:52 AM »
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I've been reading Marie Pavlovna's memoirs and was wondering about the history of the Putiatin family.  When and how did they become princes?


The Putyatins are the XVIII generation branch of the Rurik Dynasty. They received the new name in 1424, after assisting in repelling off Khan Kuidat.

[Ref: Families of the Nobility of the Russian Empire, vol 1, p 228]
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Re: Princess Poutiatin
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2005, 07:11:24 AM »
Thanks, Belochka.

Also, does anyone know who the American girl was who Prince Serge Putiatin married after Marie Pavlovna divorced him?

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« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2006, 04:50:43 PM »
I'm curious as to what the connection was between Grand Duchess Marie Pavlovna's husband Prince Sergei Mikhailovich Putyatin and Grand Duke Michael Alexandrovich's firend Prince Paul Putyatin. Were they cousins? Second cousins?

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Re: Princess Poutiatin
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2006, 06:28:08 PM »
[size=14]The Princely House of Putyatin or [ch1055][ch1091][ch1090][ch1103][ch1090][ch1080][ch1085][ch1099] originates in the 13th century from the XIIth generation descendent of Rurik, Daniel King of Galich. The Princely Houses of Drutskoy, Babichevy, Drutskoy-Sokolinsky, Drutskoy-Sokolinsky-Gurko-Romeiko, Putyatin and Drutskoy-Lubetsky all descend from Daniel.

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« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2006, 11:11:37 PM »
I think that the most famouse Poutiatine was General and Admiral Evfimiy Vasilievich Poutiatine, who , first in Russian History signed in Japan the Treaty in 1855 . He was the first who successfully established a trade and diplomatic relations with Japan.
If he is Your relative, you could be a popular in Japan. In 2005 , it was widely celebrated the anniversary.
It was also a news on Russian TV, that 2 grand grand grand sons ( about 10 years old) and their Grand Mother (there are no parents)  suffer a lot, because
the fire took place in their big apartment in Moscow  and they have no money to make restoration.
I think that after this news , the state helped them.


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« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2006, 11:32:46 PM »
[size=14]Hikaru,

I am glad to see that someone remembered the great Admiral Prince Putyatin. When the Curator of the Central Naval Museum at Saint Petersburg was guiding me through the wonders of the curatorial storage area in the basement, I distinctly remember his show of pride when he pointed out a decorative wooden Japanese cabinet that was presented to the admiral during the treaty negotiations. The restoration of this intricate cabinet was a priority to the museum staff at the time. One would think that after ten years it has been restored (more correctly conserved) and is now on public exhibit in the museum. It is quite possible that Japanese donors were found to assist with the cost of conserving this historic piece for future generations.
 
In searching the Internet, I found a half dozen or more Putyatins living in the US and Canada under the French spelling of the surname, Poutiatine.

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Re: Princess Poutiatin
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2006, 11:50:34 PM »
I will go to the Museum in one week. I will check.
I suppose that it should be exhibited in the memorial exhibition about treaty.

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Re: Princess Poutiatin
« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2006, 03:04:02 PM »
The Prince Poutiatine who married Marie Pav died a few years ago in California. I have some info on him from his son. The Prince's father was Commandant of the Alexander Palace at the time of the Revolution. The Prince's parents were very well looked after by the Grand Duchess, even after her divorce from their son.

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« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2006, 08:52:25 AM »
Thank you very much! Do you happen to know the names of Prince Sergei Putyatin's parents?

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« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2006, 01:28:42 AM »
I believe her husband was Serge Mikhailovich, so his father would have been Michael, or Mikhail. I believe his mother's name was Catherine, but I may be wrong - will look it up an get back to you.