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Re: King Alexander and Queen Draga of Serbia
« Reply #45 on: June 18, 2008, 08:01:21 AM »
She 'had ' Heir three times. Doctor came from Russia and told King she couldn't gave birth. He became histeric, and wanted to kill Doctor.
I' ll tell more about tragic night later.
Fatal Queen, from documentary:

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Re: King Alexander and Queen Draga of Serbia
« Reply #46 on: July 01, 2008, 06:50:36 AM »
More about Queen.
Night June 11th 1903. Officiers arrived at palace at 1.oo am. They entered in. And killed two guards. Queen and King were a hour ago with friends and relatives, on a family dinner. They went(friends and relatives) around 0.30 after midnight, and Pair went to their bedroom. Officiers went to houses of ministers, and killed them one by one, one escaped. Terrib!
Back to palace. King and Queen heard fire and noises outside, and were afraid, of course. Draga read 'Le Transion', she considered that end is coming. They decided to fire. Officiers already were in palace, and were destroyed doors with bombs. Finally, they entered in bedroom..but bed was empty. They though they escaped, someone betrayed them(officiers),they though King and Queen escaped with one secret room....
In meanwhile, Queen's brothers Nikola and Nikoldije were imprissoned and very soon killed. Nikoldije was good man....Why they did kill him? One said 'Once Lunjevica, forever Lunjevica' Because Nikola (his brother) was very free in manners, he did what he wanted, etc.
Queen and King hide in one secret room , in which Queen held her gowns, and huged each other, and waited....Waited for morning which they never met.

To be continued in next post.....
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Re: King Alexander and Queen Draga of Serbia
« Reply #47 on: July 01, 2008, 07:24:03 AM »
Continue...

One solider heard someone said 'Help....!' it was Draga, who looked at window. But he didn't say he saw she. Someone knew where are they, they though. They asked minister of police, Djordje Gentjitj and Laza Petrovitj  to say them where are Imperial Pair. He tried to protect them, and tarried with  officiers. Morning came....But they still didn't find them. All ran down - they though.
Warrantee officer Vemic said "The door, door, give tomahawk' And really, it was secret room in wall, in which pair were hide. They opened the door, and they saw Pair, dressed in pyjamases. Mihailo Ristitj was the first who fired....then others. Draga tried to protected husband, and stay in front of her husband. They fired...First fell King, and after 10th bullet, Queen. She was still alive, and tried to window, again cried "Help...' She was strcken in shoulder. Then, they toke bayonets and massacred them. They toke bodies and threw them from Palace's balcon to ground.
Later they buried them, after, of course exumation of bodies.(by one Austrian). Results were terrib- so many hurts, she got more then husband.
On burial, there was only one man and priest.
During WW1, Mekenzy's officiers marked grave. Then they were reburied in Old Church at Tashmaidan.In 1942, they were reburied at St.Marko Church, and they today rest there.
Europe was schoked, that savage murder......
Queen's sisters, Ana, Christina and Voika were sent in Munchen, Germany, by train.
They dissapeared.
Many movies were filmed about them. In 1909, in French, for example 'Le massacre del Belgrade' --sorry my BAD spelling.

From : Documentary, Wikipedia, and other webs

I am so sorry because I wrote this. R.I.P King and Queen. 


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Re: King Alexander and Queen Draga of Serbia
« Reply #48 on: July 01, 2008, 08:10:19 AM »
It sounds like a very brutal killing. :o

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Re: King Alexander and Queen Draga of Serbia
« Reply #49 on: July 04, 2008, 10:30:01 AM »
interesting to know what happened to her sisters

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Re: King Alexander and Queen Draga of Serbia
« Reply #50 on: July 04, 2008, 11:06:38 AM »
Sisters escaped...but she and her brothers were murdered. I'll say more later.
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Re: King Alexander and Queen Draga of Serbia
« Reply #51 on: July 12, 2008, 10:12:53 AM »
Here is a picture of one of the potential candidates for King Alexander Obrenovic:Princess Sibylle von Hesse-Cassel


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Re: King Alexander and Queen Draga of Serbia
« Reply #52 on: February 14, 2009, 02:34:02 PM »

September 23rd, 1867. Gornji Milanovac.
May 29th/June 11th 1903, Belgrade.

Queen was described as a smart woman, she knew French, Russian and German, translated books from French, was a member of Serbian journalist society, edited two newspaper, changed life at Court, was religious. She married first in 1883, in August to engineer S. Maschine. Became widow after 3 years. Toke carry to brothers and sisters. In 1891, became Queen Nathalie's lady in waiting. Ca. 1895 met King Alexander at Biarritz. Was at Russia to AIII family. In 1897 came to Belgrade. But unfortunately, she was barren. Helped homeless, churches, poets and writers. Adored Stendhal's fictions.

Some her treats were fatal to her. She got an horse regiment, named 'Horse regiment of Queen Draga', many villages got her name, a yacht was also named 'Draga'.

Photo shown above is in traditional Serbian middle - ages dress, of Queens from middle -ages.
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Re: King Alexander and Queen Draga of Serbia
« Reply #53 on: February 14, 2009, 04:43:08 PM »

 In colour. I have long been interested in Queen Draga and the Obrenovitch family.

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Re: King Alexander and Queen Draga of Serbia
« Reply #54 on: February 14, 2009, 06:36:53 PM »


Thank you, Robert -- that one is probably retouched, I can see Obrenovic crest on wall, and probably the entering matches to one Serbian Church as well, because Queen wanted to show people that she is second Serbian(nationality) Queen, she was proud with it.

She talked about philosophy, played piano too. Also, she intend to travel in Russia during 1901, but it was refused. In April/may of 1901, a Heir was expected. Nicholas II sent a golden cradle. But nothing. Queen didn't give birth. Many people and politics believe that she lied. But all symptoms of gestation matches. Consuls of three doctors came in Belgrad, and they pointed out that she wasn't pregnant. Some people believe that she wanted to supplant child from her older sister Christine. Queen Nathalie said that Draga had surgery once, and knew she was barren. One her room in that old palace was in turkish style, and she ordered furniture from Swiss in 1902. Also, proclaiming her younger brother, Nikoldije, to be Heir, made people and army angry. Also, she was subject of criticism among Belgrade woman. She called husband - 'Sherrie' (it means 'dear' in French). Also, she carried for women, and opened a institute for women.

Also, story about her and Alexander's engagement is interesting -- she was hidden, had fear of politics, and when she came home, Alexander got engagement her. She sold that ring, to built a monument to one Serbian poet. Her photo appeared on one chocolate cover in French.

In March of 1903, there was global demonstration against them. And Queen wanted to left to Germany, but King refused her decide. Also, on tragic night, pair was hidden in secret door, in her boudoir, and after almost 2 hours of finding, they were found, and killed. Her youngest sister, Ana, wrote down memories about her, called ''My sister, Queen Draga''.

She saved King's life once in Biarritz, when King swam. And love was born.

Her influence to young King was fatal too.

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Re: King Alexander and Queen Draga of Serbia
« Reply #55 on: February 14, 2009, 06:48:32 PM »
I am suree, Nena that the card is coloured by hand.  There iare probably many more books about Draga in French and Serbian, perhaps even Russian. But have 2 or 3 in English.
 Personally, I do not think she desrved the hatred expressed towrads her, and espcially the murder, of course. But that is the way Serbians settle differences, sometimes, I suppose.

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Re: King Alexander and Queen Draga of Serbia
« Reply #56 on: February 14, 2009, 07:02:45 PM »
Yes. There are several in Serbian editions, from 2000, and from 60s, if I recall correct. Of course she didn't deserve murder.

Movies about Queen Draga (and King Alexander I):

La Trag├ędie de Belgrade - 1903
La Trag├ędie de Belgrade - 1909
Koenigin Draga, 1920 - Vienn
Das Geliebte auf dem Koenigsthron, 1927 - Berlin
A Women Commands - 1932.
And one documentary from 1994.

Could it be possible to tell us which are English volumes you mentoned about her? Thanks.

She had wo brothers, and three sisters.
She got husband's surname -- Mashin, after his death. Also, her former brother -in law, Alexander, also entered in palace that night they were murdered, he though she toke rolle in Ingeener's(his brother) death.

There were rumors about her ghost walking in old palace....

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Re: King Alexander and Queen Draga of Serbia
« Reply #57 on: February 14, 2009, 07:32:54 PM »
These are the 2 I have at had-
 Dance of the Assassins by Fagyas [1973] This I think is a fictionalised history but is quite good as I remember.
 And
 A Royal Tragedy by Mijatovich 1906.
 I could not find 2 others,  my library is a bit of a mess at the moment but I think [?] one is by Bertita Harding, a very popular  biographer of royally, she specialised in the Habsburgs. Odd, I have all her books and cannot find any of them!
 And, of course Draga is mentioned in any number of anthologies about royalty and especially Balkan history.

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Re: King Alexander and Queen Draga of Serbia
« Reply #58 on: February 14, 2009, 07:41:06 PM »
Chedomile Mijatovich's book is good, written in London in 1906.. Well illustrated, and very well, truly said. Thank you, Robert, a lot. I think it can be found online to read. 

Queen used to ride a horse sometimes, and to picnic near Danube River with husband and sisters. She once said : 'It is true I interfered in literally works, and there is nothing to be ashamed of'



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Re: King Alexander and Queen Draga of Serbia
« Reply #59 on: February 15, 2009, 03:31:06 PM »
Now I thought of posting here:p

As Nena knows I'm still 'new' to the topic of Queen Draga, and I find her highly intresting.

Love the last pic, and no news on the movies as you know ;)