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Re: King Alexander and Queen Draga of Serbia
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2007, 08:09:12 PM »
Thanks for your reply, Marc.  :) Yes, she wasn't exatly Miss popular. I have also read that she had an affair with King Alexander's father who was in love with her, but when Milan abdicated she went for the son. That however seems unlikely.


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« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2007, 04:42:23 AM »
Maybe this is a stupid question (forgive me if it really is :-[), but did queen Draga have any children by her first husband? I have never heard or read anything that inclines that she did, so maybe she did not but it would be nice to know for certain. And what was the name of her first husband? I know his last name only, Mašin.

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« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2007, 07:16:20 AM »
No,she didn't have any children by her first husband.He was a Bohemian engineer and his name was Stephan.

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« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2007, 03:48:49 PM »


I always wonder...I suppose Draga always knew she was really hated. Did she never thought she could had such a tragical death?
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« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2007, 04:28:36 PM »
I don't think she really belived in such a fate,although she was very well informed about the hate she inspired in people!At that time Serbia was looking towards the rules of other ruling families of Europe and the time of marrying a local woman was gone(by the ''rules'' of other royal families).When someone would marry a local girl it would be very dangerous at that time because the people very poor and were jelous because the raise of the bride's family(in this case Draga's brothers).People wanted a foreign princess and nobody would feel hurt....In this case Alexander's father King Milan had a plan to marry his son to a German Princess Alexandra Karoline von Schaumburg-Lippe,but then Draga came to the scene and...you know the end of the story!

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« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2007, 01:42:04 PM »
We alluded to it, but perhaps the fate that befell Alexander and Draga should be mentioned on this thread . . . ?

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« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2007, 02:00:01 PM »
You mean thier brutal murder in their nightclothes and de-fenestration?

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« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2007, 02:28:40 PM »
Yes. Certainly we've discussed any number of possibilities/realities re: the murder of the Romanovs and disposition of their bodies.

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Re: King Alexander and Queen Draga of Serbia
« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2007, 04:57:07 PM »
Their palace was invaded at night and the couple hid in a cupboard in the Queen's bedroom. The invaders (including the brother of Draga's former husband) searched the palace (one can only imagine the royal couple cowering in fear as the group stormed around  :-\ )and eventually the pair was found and savagely murdered in the early morning of June 11, 1903. They were shot (King Alexander in the face), their bodies mutilated (I think Draga was especially stabbed around the abdomen?) and thrown from a window in the palace. Their bodies remained on the ground for several hours, I believe, until they were finally carried away in a wagon. Draga's brother (who some feared would be named heir to the throne) was also murdered in the palace that night. Not a pretty ending at all. The Premier and some other government members were also hunted down and assassinated during the night. The bodies of the king and queen were later secretly buried in a single grave in the cemetery of St. Mark’s Church, Belgrade. Only two priests were present at the burial, which took place in the early morning hours.

General Zivkovitch, appointed Prime Minister a quarter of a century later, was the Lieutenant in charge of the couple's personal safety that night. Upon his appointment, Time magazine reported that "Presumably he [King Alexander of Yugoslavia] did not know that Lieutenant Petar Zivkovitch was about to unlock, stealthily, a palace back door in Belgrade, and admit the assassin of Alexander Obrenovitch and Queen Draga. As a Karageorgevitch, however, Dictator-King Alexander can scarcely fail to see in this deed the hand of Divine (Greek Orthodox) Providence. So great indeed is his faith that, upon ascending the throne, he did not hesitate to make General Zivko vitch commander of the royal guard, a post which the general retains today. However, a new palace has been built, and Alexander Karageorgevitch does not sleep in the same royal bed as did murdered Alexander Obrenovitch."

As a side note, Pola Negri played Queen Draga in an Australian movie, A Woman Commands, in 1932.
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« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2007, 05:44:41 PM »
The novelist Rebecca West's description of the scene from Black Lamb and Grey Falcon:

"“The palace was a fine example of the school of interior decoration to which the dynasties of Europe seem irresistibly drawn, and they had to find their way among objects including many bead portières, a huge black bear that someone had shot during the Bulgarian War, marble fountains removed from old Turkish palaces …All that is known is that at the last they stood in their bedroom, the flabby spectacled young man and the stout and bloated middle-aged woman, fantastically dressed, and faced a group of officers whose shaking hands held guttering candles and drawn swords and revolvers.”

"The next time the red light of violence shone out it seemed of no importance, an irrelevant horror. When I was ten years old, on June the eleventh, 1903, Alexander Obrenovitch, King of Serbia, and his wife Draga were murdered in the Palace at Belgrade, and their naked bodies thrown out of their bedroom into the garden. The Queen's two brothers and two Ministers were also killed. The murder was the work of a number of Army officers, none of whom was then known outside Serbia, and the main characters were not interesting. Alexander was a flabby young man with pince-nez who had a taste for clumsy experiments in absolutism, and his wife, who strangely enough belonged to the same type as Marie Vetsera, though she had in her youth been far more beautiful, was understood to have the disadvantages of being disreputable, having an ambitious family, and lying under the suspicion of having tried to palm off a borrowed baby as an heir to the throne. There can be no question that these people were regarded with terrified apprehension by the Serbians, who had freed themselves from the Turk not a hundred years before and knew that their independence was perpetually threatened by the great powers. The cringe lingered in nay mind only because of its nightmare touches. The conspirators blew open the door of the Palace with a dynamite cartridge which fused the electric lights and they stumbled about blaspheming in the darkness, passing into a frenzy of cruelty that was half terror. The King and Queen hid in a secret cuphoard in their bedroom for two hours, listening to the searchers grow cold, then warm, then child again, then warn, and at last hot, and burning hot. The weakly King was hard to kill: when they threw him from the balcony they thought him doubly dead from bullet wounds and sword slashes, but the fingers of his right hand clasped the railing and had to be cut of before lie fell to the ground, where the tinged of his left hand clutched the grass. Though it was June, rain fell on the naked bodies in the early morning as they lay among the flowers. The whole of Europe was revolted. Edward VII withdrew his minister and most of the great powers followed his example.

That murder was just a half-tone square, dingily figured with horror, at the back of my mind: a Police News poster or the front page of a tabloid, seen years ago. But now I realize that when Alexander and Draga fell from that balcony the whole of the modern world fell with them. It took some time to reach the ground and break its neck, but its fall started then, For this is not a strictly moral universe, and it is not true that it is useless to kill a tyrant because a worse man takes his place."

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Re: King Alexander and Queen Draga of Serbia
« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2007, 11:24:47 PM »
From Wikipedia regarding the marriage of Alexander & Draga:

During the summer of 1900, Milan (King's father) was away from Serbia on holiday in Carlsbad and making arrangements to secure the hand of a German princess for his son, and while the premier, Dr. Vladan Dyorević, was visiting the Paris Universal Exhibition, King Aleksandar suddenly announced to the people of Serbia his engagement to the widow Madame Draga Mašin, formerly a lady-in-waiting to his mother Queen Natalie.

The projected union initially aroused great opposition. Ex-King Milan resigned his post, as did the government; and King Aleksandar had great difficulty in forming a new cabinet. Due to his mothers strong opposition of the marriage, King Aleksander banished her from the kingdom.

Opposition to the union seemed to subside somewhat for a time upon the publication of Tsar Nicholas II's congratulations to the king on his engagement and of his acceptance to act as the principal witness at the wedding. The marriage was duly celebrated in August 1900. Even so, the unpopularity of the union weakened the King's position in the eyes of the army and the country at large.

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« Reply #26 on: March 22, 2007, 04:14:05 AM »
It should be mentioned that the Karageorgivitch were [loudly] wispered to be behind the plot to oust the Obrevnovithci, if not the actual butchering. Sort of understandable, as the tables had been reversed in the past.

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Re: King Alexander and Queen Draga of Serbia
« Reply #27 on: June 13, 2008, 05:58:07 AM »
Draga, fatal queen, was good person, keep that in minds. She helped hospitals, homeless, children, young poets.
in 1902, her portrait was on cover of chocolade made i French----can you imagine that? But she couldn't born Heir. Without Heir, there is no dunasty.She khew Romanov family. Emperor Nicholas II bought them golden cradle for future Heir of Serbia....but.....
She married with Alexander on july 23rd 1900.
So , she died with husand on night May 29th/June 11th 1903.







Very interesting story.....
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Re: King Alexander and Queen Draga of Serbia
« Reply #28 on: June 14, 2008, 05:54:47 AM »
Hi Mari!
Some people says Draga wasn't good person, she was foxy person....But, she loved country very much, her husband too. Queen Natalia said to firned: I believed her(Draga) more than me....
There is also, legend about that she saved her future husband Alexander, because he could garotte in Palace's fountain.
Can you imagine that? She had three sisters: Ana, Christina and Voika., and two brothers Nikola and Nikodije. She wanted to visit in Russia in 1903, but Alexandra Feodorovna was sick, and wasn't able  accept her. She knew French, German.....She was member of journalist corporation. She had many romances. Firstly, she married engineer Svetozar Masin, but he died soon, and she repressed his pension and surname. One horse guards was named as her name : Queen Draga's horse guards.
 Sometimes she was strong, she didn't give wage to workers, and made them angry. She wanted to divorce her husband in 1902, but he didn't want. And she knew what was going to happen. Alexander called her : My violet, I kiss you very much........ He loved Draga.


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« Reply #29 on: June 14, 2008, 10:50:44 AM »
lets face it , she was far too unsuitable to marry the young King. The marriage was extremely unpopular as it was expected that he would bring prestigue to the country with marriage to a foreign princess. She was  regarded as self seeking and barren ...with the popular belief that she would pass the crown to her brother. It was probably a real love match but she was a fool to encourage him and allow herself to marry. Surely she must have been aware of the dangerous path she was treading?