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Re: Just to put this out there...Romanov style!
« Reply #720 on: January 17, 2011, 04:20:59 PM »
I've only seen it mentioned in one book that I can remember.

Maria, Anastasia and Alexei would use the coded language to write each other messages and exchange them secretly. It appears to me to just be a change in spellings and such.
Here's the only sample published so far:

"To Her Highness stupid Marie and Anostoie. Thanks for thesnakck I rekon well befightin. M. A. Alexei. 1914."
"Господь им дал дар по молитвам их размягчать окаменелые наши сердца за их страдания..Мне думается, что если люди будут молиться Царской Cемье, оттают сердца с Божией помощью."

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« Reply #721 on: March 18, 2011, 01:39:33 PM »
Wi Nikolai den andre, med Guds Nåde, Kejsare och Sjelfherrskare öfver hela Ryssland, Tsar af Polen, Storfurste till Finland etc., etc., etc., göre veterlegt att...

Who can decipher it? :-)


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Re: Just to put this out there...Romanov style!
« Reply #722 on: March 18, 2011, 05:23:44 PM »
Wi Nikolai den andre, med Guds Nåde, Kejsare och Sjelfherrskare öfver hela Ryssland, Tsar af Polen, Storfurste till Finland etc., etc., etc., göre veterlegt att...

Who can decipher it? :-)




Tsar Nicholas II the Second, by the Grace of God, Emperor and Sjelfherrskare (?) over the whole of Russia, Tsar of Poland, Grand Duke of Finland, etc., etc., etc., hereby make reschedules (verlegt is difficult to decipher correctly, many meanings) to ...
"Господь им дал дар по молитвам их размягчать окаменелые наши сердца за их страдания..Мне думается, что если люди будут молиться Царской Cемье, оттают сердца с Божией помощью."

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Re: Just to put this out there...Romanov style!
« Reply #723 on: March 18, 2011, 06:54:12 PM »
Almost. It does appear in Gothic (blackletter) script for you guys too, right?

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Re: Just to put this out there...Romanov style!
« Reply #724 on: March 18, 2011, 07:38:52 PM »
Response # 722 makes (in an attempted translation) reference to "verlegt," when the quote in # 721 is shown as "VETERLEGT".  IMO, "verlegen" is a modern German infinitive (if one takes the spelling shown in #722 --as "verlegt" --as a potential conjugation of such).  Regardless, it would appear to not be relevant to the "title proclamation/recitation," using this spelling.   AP.
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Re: Just to put this out there...Romanov style!
« Reply #725 on: March 18, 2011, 08:04:53 PM »
It's not in German. It's in a language spoken by some of NII's subjects, who wrote it in blackletter, although they were changing to antiqua during his reign. You can all see it in blackletter, right?

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Re: Just to put this out there...Romanov style!
« Reply #726 on: March 18, 2011, 08:17:30 PM »
 Hello, "F.P."!  Yes, of course, I understand that it is NOT in German, with which I am familiar, and thus occasion my remarks. Simply the response attempt (#722) that the poster made, rendered (through a mis-reading, apparently of "verlegt" versus "veterlegt") a modern German spelling of a conjugation's parent infinitive, which gives no comprehensible meaning/addition to the "Title Proclamation."  Apparently by utilizing/relying on a automated translator, that is why the poster had a problem resulting in a string of gibberish in meanings for that word.
 As to "Black Letter," your remarks appear partially (on this computer) in "bold," not the so-called "Fraktur," if that is what you are asking.    
 Good to hear from you again!                Best regards,  AP.
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Re: Just to put this out there...Romanov style!
« Reply #727 on: March 18, 2011, 09:57:35 PM »
As to "Black Letter," your remarks appear partially (on this computer) in "bold," not the so-called "Fraktur," if that is what you are asking.
Oh, that's too bad. I imagined the fonts we could use were universal. Does this appear in Old English blackletter? (Which I presume is a more common font than Schwabacher, which I used.)
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Re: Just to put this out there...Romanov style!
« Reply #728 on: March 18, 2011, 11:12:52 PM »
Re Posting # 727:   Unfortunately, no, not even in "bold" now.   At least, not on my computer.  Regards,  AP.

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Re: Just to put this out there...Romanov style!
« Reply #729 on: March 19, 2011, 07:38:53 PM »
Ah, OK. I tried to use another computer and then my first post didn't appear in Schwabacher blackletter. Apparantly it only works on my computer, unfortunately, since I have downloaded the font. But I could see the text in Old English blackletter, priobably because that's a more common font. (It's a standard option in Microsoft Word.)

The text was in Swedish (with archaïc spelling), means "Vi, Nicholas the Second, Emperor of All Russia, Tsar of Poland and Grand Prince to Finland, do make known that..." and I wanted to have it in blackletter, because that's how the imperial-grand ducal proclamations appeared in Finland right up to NII's reign, during which Finland started to exchange blackletter script (Fraktur aka "Gothic script") with antiqua aka Roman script.

But the Russian version appears in Cyrillic chancery style? and italics here, doesnt it?
Божиею милостию, Мы, Николай Вторый, Император и Самодержец Всероссийский, Царь Польский, Великий Князь Финляндский и прочая, и прочая, и проча, oбъявляемъ всЪмъ вЪрнымъ Нашимъ подданнымъ...

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Re: Just to put this out there...Romanov style!
« Reply #730 on: March 19, 2011, 07:54:49 PM »
Yes, the Cyrillic characters DO show (and in italics)!  Regards,  AP.

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Re: Just to put this out there...Romanov style!
« Reply #731 on: May 27, 2011, 04:54:35 AM »
Anti-American Russian commercial: Kvasification instead of Coca-Colaïfication!

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Re: Just to put this out there...Romanov style!
« Reply #732 on: May 27, 2011, 07:25:22 AM »
LOL!!!

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« Reply #734 on: July 02, 2011, 07:24:04 PM »
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