The Heino Tammet case

[lexi4]

I don't know if someone read the whole story, but the reason why the DNA test issn't done is very clear.
If there's a proof that Heino Tammet IS Alexei, then he is the crown-prince.

"The accepted version of history says that sixteen months earlier Nicholas had abdicated the throne for both himself and his son.  However, there is some question about the validity of the Ex-Tsar's actions in March of 1917.  Nicholas abdicated not once, but twice.  The first time he had abdicated for himself but on the second occasion, some six or more hours later, he wrote a second abdication document that passed the throne to his brother Michael in order to protect his ailing son.  Although it has always been assumed that that document took the throne away from the Tsarevich Alexei, there are two problems with that assumption.

The second abdication document says, "Not wishing to part with our dear son, we transfer our legacy to our brother".  That wording does not actually say that Nicholas was abdicating on his son's behalf.  It neatly sidesteps the question of Alexei's claim to the throne and places it in Michael's lap.  That could well have left Alexei open to make a renewed claim at a later date.

The more important point is that the second document was probably not legal because Nicholas had already abdicated six hours earlier when he signed his name to the first set of papers.  He was no longer the Tsar when the second document was written and no longer in a legal position to abdicate on his son's behalf.  When Nicholas put pen to paper for that second time Alexei was the Tsar!  The son's abdication was his own decision to make... not his father's!"

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Sounds logical to me.....  
Therefor IF Heino is Alexei, then he was the Tsar since 1918 till 1977, and that makes his oldest son the current Tsar.  
And in that case he could stand up for his right for the trone and the Romanov tressuries.

Your name Henry Oak, is great. I believe that is the translation for Heino tammet, is it not?

[lexi4]

John Kendrick is a journalist based in BC who has written extensively about the Heino Tammet case. I have no idea who the other chap is. I have always found John Kendrick to be a man of good repute and character - and I'm glad he's joined us on this board!

John: This thread is about the case, and while I can see you clearly have differences with "Alekseovich", he is permitted to post here. Perhaps he could take his comments to a separate thread?

"Alekseovich": It is my suggestion as a Moderator here that you start a thread if you feel you have issues to discuss. John knows enough about this case that I would trust his word that Mr. Tammet had not been in CT, but this is only my opinion. I am very sorry you have had a difficult life.

That said, any differences with Mr. Kendrick need to be taken "outside" and not on our forum, if you please.

Thank you Lisa

[Wiermann]

I see You do never stop. Heino Tammet’s native-born name was Ernst Wiermann. He was Estonian guy, who wont to be better than he was. Before II World ware he ganged he’s name to Heino Tammet. He was my grandfathers youngest brother and NO RUSSIAN, NO TSAREVITSH, NO ROMANOV.
Please stop this codswallop.
:-/

[lexi4]

He was your grandfathers brother? Did you know him? You have my attention.

[RealAnastasia]

WEW! So, that's mean that he never claimed to be Alexei? I didn't know this...Please, tell us all do you know about him, Wiermann.

RealAnastasia.

[lexi4]

RealAnastacia,
I wonder who that guy really is. He could be anyone. I think that is the only post he made. If we want to talk about the Tammet case, we can. I don't know a lot about it.

[AGRBear]

It the  poster Wiermann returns, perhaps, we can ask question.  If he does not, then, I'm not sure if we can think of his post as being legitimate.

Anyway, back to Heino Tammet case.


AGRBear

[Lizameridox]

I am inclined, on the other hand, to think Mr/Ms. Wiermann's post has a certain ring of truth to it, coming from the unique perspective of a relative.  He or she definitely should be given at least as much slack as Ernst-Heino Tammet-Veermann and encouraged to come back with his or her side of the story if he or she wishes.  I would not dismiss what he or she had to say only because the message came out of the blue.  Alas, no one seems to be listening to him or her.  This impostor is now being given a lot of attention.

Does anyone here honestly believe Tammet-Veerman could have been the Tsarevich?  If so, WHY were you convinced?

[AGRBear]

>>He or she definitely should be given at least as much slack as Ernst-Heino Tammet-Veermann<<

Agree.


AGRBear

[Tasha_R]

I am not saying I believe that he is the Tsarevitch, however the fact that he possessed an extremely rare order (which from the picture on the web site appears authentic) does have me questioning some.  One could, I suppose, have obtained it through purchase (if one had unlimited funds, which, I get the impression, he did not have) or other more unscrupulous ways, but I don't know if anyone were to have stolen it, if they would have had the courage to have been photographed with it.

See the photo at the bottom of the page:
http://www.npsnet.com/alexei_found/

Sincere regards,
Tasha :-/

[Lizameridox]

Tasha -- about that picture of Tammet wearing the Order of the White Eagle:  you might want to read the following link:

http://www.chivalricorders.org/royalty/fantasy/alexei.htm

where the medal and some logical reasons to discount the Tammet claim are discussed.  This is also the picture of Tammet that 'Alekseevich' claims was the one showing evidence of the head being pasted on someone else's body.

[etonexile]

Gad...when you see pictures of AN and HT together....it is all even more laughable...look at that HUGE head on HT....and his dull eyes....nothing at all like NA....even considering the passage of time....Gad

[Tasha_R]

Liza,
Thank you.  I had happened upon the discussion regarding the possible superimposition of one picture over the other, and did as was suggested - meaning enlarging the photo to see if there might be some discrepancies.  Sure enough, there is a distinct line that can be seen on the face which indicates that this picture has been altered, even perhaps before digital technology.

I find that explanation more plausible than the arguement about the order being readily available in the market.  While orders do come up regularly on the market, this particular badge, I believe, is made with real diamonds and is worth quite a lot.  Certainly just any old "Joe Schmo" would not be able to afford it.

Alterations were done to photographs for a long time, even before digital photography made it so much easier.  Hence, this is a more logical explanation.

Thanks again,
Tasha

[etonexile]

If AN was stripped of his clothes by the guards...how did he manage to hang on to that "family jewel"...Nice guards just let him keep it...?

[Lizameridox]

'Oh, what a tangled web we weave/When first we practice to deceive.'  

It may even be possible that this entire Tammet charade is being dragged out because someone DOESN'T want to have the testing done and to face up to the obvious truth that this charlatan was not who he had a ball pretending to be.  This man could dance and play musical instruments... why couldn't he accept being himself, with the name he assumed in the 1940's, rather than taking on a prince's identity when he was having trouble coping with a terminal illness?