Alexander Palace Restoration

[PAVLOV]

Yes one is greatful that at last something is being done, but after the initial exitement, I must say I also hope that this is not going to be a " Potemkin Village' patch up job !

One can only hope they are doing it PROPERLY and that the contents of the building comes back when they are finished.

I wonder who is footing the bill, in these hard times !.

[Alexander1917]

Yes one is greatful that at last something is being done, but after the initial exitement, I must say I also hope that this is not going to be a " Potemkin Village' patch up job !

One can only hope they are doing it PROPERLY and that the contents of the building comes back when they are finished.

I wonder who is footing the bill, in these hard times !.

I think the russian state pays the bill...as investion to the 300 years celebration.. similar to the 300 birthsday of st. petersburg 2003

[Joanna]

A tender was placed last March to close for the finalization of the restoration of the exterior of the AP.

On June 30, 2009 another tender was initiated which closes on August 3rd for a survey of the AP:
http://www.i-tenders.ru/index.php?tendershow=798553

Joanna

[PAVLOV]

Another exciting thing about this is that we are all, FINALLY, going to see what era they choose !

Any guesses ?

I think its going to be as close as possible to the original, classic style, with very little, if any, N & A.

I think that if they do any N & A it will only be the mauve boidoir.   

[Joanna]

There may be the idea of restoring the AP in three sections - the left wing in the period of N&A, the parade rooms would encompass all the reigns as very little was changed throughout, and the right wing in the period of Nicholas I. The right wing rooms had minimal changes between NI and AIII. The stag chamber (dressing room) retained the sofa/bed enclosure with the door to the bathroom c1840s as the Grand Duke's bedroom and AIII as dressing room. Similar is the bedroom of NI's wife Alexandra Fedorvona and AIII's Maria F. The English suite may be replicated to a degree as previously the contents of one room was removed to the Chinese theatre. Of the right wing, in the latest book on the AP last year, to quote the changing attitudes: "...All the work in the palace was carried out under the guidance of Alexandra Fedorovna, who lovingly improved her home, arranging things in the state rooms and dwelling apartments not so much according to the rules of interior art as drawing upn her considerations of comfort. Until recently such approach was criticized, but on a closer acquaintance with the life of the imperial family in the Alexander Palace it becomes clear that cosiness and warmth were more important for Nicholas II and Alexandra Fedorovna than fashionable decoration..."

There has also been an increase in archival searching/publication on the interiors of the AP for the TS State Museum to draw on for identification/replication. For example, the furniture house of Melzer F & K of which this article describes forty pieces of furniture for the Palisander Room, thirty items for the Mauve Room, etc.
http://www.brwmagazin.ru/index.php?type=special&area=1&p=articles&id=29&print=1

Interesting article on the locations of Melzer's factory in StP:
http://ifominov.narod.ru/histori4.htm

Joanna

[EmmyLee]

Thank you for those websites, Joanna. And what you say makes sense. I could see the AP being restored in those three sections. It would be a way to make some sort of compromise between those who prefer the AP from NI's time or from NII's reign. But I guess we'll have to wait and see, though hopefully we'll hear something official on what they plan to do.

[NAOTMAA Fan]

Another exciting thing about this is that we are all, FINALLY, going to see what era they choose !

Any guesses ?

I think its going to be as close as possible to the original, classic style, with very little, if any, N & A.

I think that if they do any N & A it will only be the mauve boidoir.   

I don't understand why they wouldn't attempt to restore the N&A wing of the palace to the way NAOTMAA had it. It would be ridiculously inconvenient in my opinion to tear down all the walls and partitions N&A erected during their personal renovations, and try to return the entire thing to the way it was beforehand (ei. the huge ballroom that took up most of that wing until the children's floor was installed along with many of NAOTMAA's rooms). The structure is there, so why not work with it? Besides, they have already tried redecorating (shabily) rooms such as the Tsar's Formal Reception Room and the New Study (in which, mind you, the entire staircase, balcony railings, and fireplace had been torn out by Nazis, and then later reinstalled). It doesn't make sense for them to go and waste all that effort by just tearing it all up again (which I personally don't think they'll do). If they've tried recreating a few rooms, I don't see why they wouldn't try doing the rest.

But of course, the attraction of Tsarskoe Selo is its grandeur, so maybe the English chintzes and lemonwood furniture of Alexandra's design really aren't of any concern to officials during this sudden renovation D :

[PAVLOV]

The thing with this restoration is that the authorities have never faced a project like this before. The past restorations were either total recreations of mainly 18th and early 19th century interiors, so yes, they could have a problem with the chintzy Maples " look", preferred by the Empress. ( I have decided to refer to her more respectfully, even although I dont really like her)

I personally dont think that the average person in Russia is ready yet to make an effort to recreate anything for N & A, so it will be very interesting to see the end result. Perhaps they will do something for the tourists, they must be aware of the fact that many " westerners" are fascinated by the last Imperial family. So if they do a mauve room and make an effort, the tourists will come. Hopefully. I dont think the average person has ever heard of this room, anyway. So perhaps they would have to do something more of N&A.

Many tourists go to Peterhof just for the fountains, and the fireworks. Most of them dont care about the interiors or the architecture, or the history. They could just as well be in Disney World.  Its sad but true that the Alexander palace will not attract thousands of tourists if it is just done up as another beautiful Russian palace, filled with grand furniture, mirrors and gilt.
Although we all know that the building is beautiful, the interiors do not have, as I have said before, the "Wow" and glitz factor of the Catherine Palace or Pavlovsk and the others.. They have to identify it with N&A to attract the tourists.

Although we would all rush to the palace just for the beauty of the building, the average tourist wants more value for their money.
I hope the Russian restorers realise this. ( And that they do it tastefully !!!!!..................Pleeeeeze)

I am horrified to hear that they are going to restore the gilded bits on the Catherine palace back to the originals.

Its fine as it is. So why waste the money ? In  my opinion it has already been "over restored", and is getting that "Las Vegas" look.

I think the exterior and fabric of the Alexander Palace will be restored first, before they make an attempt at the interiors. I hope they clear up the gardens around the building, and take down all those rusty old fences, and clear the weeds while they are at it.
I have a problem translating the tender, so cannot see what it specifies.

Has anyone else translated it ? Does it include the restoration of the interiors ? Or just the building ?       

   

[pastpalacelife]

To any Russian speakers here, was anyone able to watch the video      "http://www.ntv.ru/news/136625/video/"  showing restoration in the  Mtn Hall of the AP and if so, could you please tell me what they were saying?   Thanks, Tracy

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[Laura Mabee]

I understand this is a second post of almost the same things but...

Some great news!!

the former staterooms of the Alexander Palace will open to the public in 2010!

Forum Discussion - http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php?topic=14298.0
News Link - http://www.angelfire.com/pa/ImperialRussian/news/59news.html
Download the video clip for your iPod or Computer - http://media.ntv.ru/news/spb/20091112/NTV_CH6_1211_1830_ALEXDV_T170.mp4

I'm posting this here so that when this news comes and goes, it will still be recorded in this thread for future visitors who want to look up the process of the Alexander Palace Restoration through this thread.
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Article -

Paul Gilbert © Royal Russia
27 November, 2009

The Alexander Palace has officially ceased to belong to the Ministry of Defense. The final arrangements to turn over the remainder of the palace and the former kitchen building, which is adjacent to the palace, are expected to be finalized by the end of November.

On October 22, 2009 the Territorial Federal Property Management Agency in St. Petersburg, ordered that the Alexander Palace be vacated by the Ministry of Defense and turned over to the Tsarskoe Selo State Museum-Reserve. Prior to this the palace had been under the administration of the Ministry of Defense since 1951.

According to the museum’s director, Olga Tatatynova. the Tsarskoe Selo State Museum-Reserve are currently making preparations for the restoration of the three central staterooms of the Alexander Palace. The restoration of the circular, marble portrait halls and living room will be allocated 370 million rubles from Federal funds.

Tatatynova noted that "the premises handed over to us are surprisingly well-preserved, intact and stressed that the premises did not require reconstruction, but only restoration.”

The museum has said that they have plans to open an exhibit next June dedicated to private world of Tsar Nicholas II and his family who preferred the Alexander Palace to the Winter Palace in St. Petersburg. The museum is also planning to open a cultural center dedicated to the history of the House of the Romanovs.

The cultural center will be housed in the former apartments of Nicholas I situated in the right wing of the palace, formerly occupied by the Ministry of Defense. The cultural center will include a library on the history of the Romanov dynasty, and will host film screenings and seminars. A restaurant is also planned whereby visitors may partake in dishes of the Imperial kitchen for the royal family.

   Repair on the roof of the palace has been completed. Work is currently underway to restore the facades and porches of the palace and there are plans to landscape the grounds surrounding the palace. These projects, as well as the restoration of state rooms will continue over the winter and are expected to be completed for the 300th anniversary of Tsarskoe Selo in 2010. There are also plans to restore the underground passageway that led from the Imperial kitchen building to the palace.

After the last war, many items from the Alexander Palace were dispersed to other palaces and museums, such as Pavlovsk. Arrangements are now being made to have these items returned to the Alexander Palace where they will once again become part of the museum.

The Alexander Palace was built in 1792 by order of Catherine II. It was built for the wedding of her favorite grandson, Grand Duke Alexander Pavlovich to Grand Duchess Elizabeth Alekseyevna. In May 1796, the last year of the reign of the Empress, the construction was completed, and on June 12, 1796, Grand Duke Alexander Pavlovich and his wife moved into the new palace.

The architectural design of the Alexander Palace belongs to that of the famous Italian architect Giacomo Quarenghi, and the work was carried out under the supervision of architect P. Neyelov. Further interior restorations of the palace were carried out over the next 200 years by other prominent architects: L. Rusca, C. Makere, S. Cherfolio, A. Ton, VPStasov, D. Efimov, AI Stakenschneider, AF Species , SA Danini, R. Meltzer.

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[EmmyLee]

Wow! Thanks for directing our attention to this article. It's nice to finally hear what they plan to do with the right wing. I'm very interested in the restaurant and its dishes from the Imperial kitchen. I wonder if they'll use old menus to make up their selection. I'm even more interested in the underground tunnel. By restoring it, are they planning on letting people down into it? If so, I really hope they'll allow photography there so that those of us who are unable to make it to the AP can see what it looks like. I find any information on the workings of the palace very interesting, so this in particular has captured my attention.

I can't wait to see pictures of the finished product in 2010 with the facades and state rooms restored. It's wonderful that progress is finally being made to avoid the palace crumbling into absolute disrepair.

[EmmyLee]

I hope this is all right, but I captured some of the views of the state rooms so that we could get a better look at them.

[pastpalacelife]

I'm glad you did capture those pic's, thanks.  I never realized the color of the columns was that pale gold, they are beautiful, but aren't they also "fake" marble?  Is the picture of the room with closed door the billiard hall?  Tracy

[pastpalacelife]

I found this video talking about a plate being returned to the Alexander Palace, and I think some of the footage shows the right wing.

http://www.vesti.ru/videos?vid=259842

I hope somebody who speaks Russian can tell us what they are saying!