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Maria_Pavlovna

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People spelling names.
« on: August 04, 2006, 12:26:37 PM »
It quite annoys me when people correct other people ways of spelling names. Like for any example:

“No, her name is Maria, not Marie”.

Actually Marie is French and English of Maria.

And other:

“His name is spelled ‘Aleksey’ not Alexei.”

Many names can be spelt differently because of what language that person speaks (like what country they’re from).

Anastasia is actually “Greek” Russian spelling is “Anastasiya” and that in English is Anastacia.

Alexei-Alessio-Aleksey-Alexej etc “MEANS” the same. I even seen the spelling “Alexie” maybe that person first language that isn’t English and they are trying to write in English.

heres a good webpage for that propose.

The reason way I made this topic is let people know it “Ok” to spell it anyone way you like.  And I don’t want anyone to correct anyone because, they are right in another language.
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Re: People spelling names.
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2006, 01:06:21 PM »
I can understand and respect your point.  :)
I think the reason people get upset because FA made a rule about spellings. (can be seen here).

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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2006, 01:37:15 PM »
yeah people spell it diffrently take my name for example

leah-
leigha
lea
LEIA
LEIGH

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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2006, 01:45:31 PM »
look heres some ways of spelling anastasia diffrently

ANASTASIA
Anastasiya
ANASTACIA
ANASTAS
ANASTASIUS
ANASTASIE
ANASTASIYA
ANASZTÁZIA
ANASTASIYA
ANASTAZJA 

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« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2006, 03:59:28 PM »
Russian, itself, lends to a lot of confusion when names are transliterated to Roman characters - for instance, the following.  Note that the character "й" may be used for "j" or "y" (in most cases).  The same goes for "я", which can be written "ja" or "ya".  Most other Eastern European languages pronounce "j" as the leading "y" sound as well.

Мария

Transliterates directly to: M-a-r-i-ya or M-a-r-i-ja in some forms.  The Romance spelling of the same pronunciation is Maria.

Алексей

Transliterates directly to Aleksei, Aleksey or Aleksej.  The most common spelling of the "ks" sound in English languages is "x", which Russian does not have.  Therefore, the standard Roman-character spelling is Alexei.

I think Anastasia's name has been examined pretty thoroughly enough by Leah already, so I won't do that.

However, there are a lot of unexplained instances of language muddling, especially with surnames.  For example, Peter Ilych Tchaikovsky (his middle name's a good example of the use of "y" as an "i" sound, too) has a very well-used last name, but for some reason, people seem to think it's funny or "cool" to spell it in a more exotic manner.  Here's all the variations I can recall:

Chaikovsky
Tchaikovskiy/Tchaikovskij (Neither of which is technically incorrect, but the "i" near the end is unneccessary in English)
Tchaikovfsky
Tchaikofsky
Tchaykovski
Etc. and etc.

I could quote a lot more on a lot more names, but...you get the point.

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Re: People spelling names.
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2006, 05:32:18 PM »
While all the points made about transliteration between alphabets and languages are very true, we ought to pay attention to Laura's point -- if we don't conform to the universal spellings FA has laid out, the search function will be completely useless:P
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« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2006, 05:38:51 PM »
Sarushka's made a very valid point...we certainly don't want to end up like Google, where the only way to find results on authors and musicians is to try every possible misspelling of their name.  Now, I'm not saying that anyone here is chronically misspelling anyone's name, but we all should try to use the standards that FA's established - I don't exactly remember in which board the thread regarding those universal spellings is, so someone else will have to find that out.

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« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2006, 07:47:59 PM »
I don't exactly remember in which board the thread regarding those universal spellings is, so someone else will have to find that out.

I have a link to it in my post  ;)

...FA made a rule about spellings. (can be seen here).

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Re: People spelling names.
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2006, 12:10:37 AM »
Just to be pedantic, Anastasius is the Greek Male form of the name Anastasia, the Russian male equivelat being Anastasy

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« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2006, 09:41:43 PM »
I don't exactly remember in which board the thread regarding those universal spellings is, so someone else will have to find that out.

I have a link to it in my post  ;)

...FA made a rule about spellings. (can be seen here).
Ach, stupid me.  Well, everyone - there you have it.

Naslednik Norvezhskiy

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« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2010, 11:48:09 PM »
It quite annoys me when people correct other people ways of spelling names.
Aha - you will like my draconian approach:

Quote from: Irina of Russia in the "Just to put it out there...Romanov style!" thread
The marriage between the Prince of Hapsburg and the Romanov Princess.
Habsburg*
Anyone who berates somebody for spelling the name of the All-Highest Arch-House with a p should watch their backs (Bulgarians: Especially make sure your Köstritz'es are appropriately umläuted / dotted!); or you'll experience the treatment I gave poor Lucien in the Spanish Hapsburgs thread!
:-)
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« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2010, 11:58:25 PM »
Yes so true,  I don't care about spelling of Names,  I know who they mean.   My boyfriend is a poor speller for two years he spelt my name Chantell when it is Chantelle.   

I didn't mind because Chantelle has so many variations of it.
Shantelle, Shantel, Shantell, Chantelle, Chantell,  Chantel or Chantal (the real French spelling).

Oh on the J/Y confusion in Russian,  it happened a bit when t.A.T.u reached the Western world and people kept Spelling Yulia's name with a J and calling her Julia she said she didn't mind how it was spelt.

Naslednik Norvezhskiy

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« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2010, 12:12:03 AM »
Yes so true,  I don't care about spelling of Names
I think it's just entertaining to see common nouns misspelled, but misspellings in more formal usage, like proper names, titles, headlines and for example signatures (you have misspelled "Nagorny" in yours, rosieposie :-) have a tendency to irritate me. Indeed I find misspelling proper names from foreign languages or cultures quite offensive, particularly because it's often done by "dominant cultures" like the Anglophone one. To me it says: We just don't think it (and indirectly you) are important enough to care.
« Last Edit: February 22, 2010, 12:14:15 AM by Rœrik »

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« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2010, 12:17:30 AM »
Hee hee,  your not ment to notice :P

rosieposie

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Re: People spelling names.
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2010, 06:29:46 AM »
I can understand and respect your point.  :)
I think the reason people get upset because FA made a rule about spellings. (can be seen here).

Yes FA is a Muffining Muffin,  I just read a post he put on in regards to MF's name.    Geez we are all human.