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The restoration of Monarchy in Austria...
« on: August 06, 2006, 02:36:28 PM »
The greatest Russian Saint Seraphim of Sarov prophesized the restoration of Monarchy in Russia, France and Austria, the latter under the rule of Hapsburgs, thanks to the help of Russia, after a devastating war also prophesized by St. Martyr Methodius of Olympus and by Nostradamus as well. During this war, Paris will be destroyed and France's population reduced to 17 million people, while Austria's population will be reduced to 7 million. The restoration of the Russian Monarchy is suggested by Russia's return to its former "glory", that of the French Monarchy by France's new capital moved to the ancient coronation site of Rheims, while that of the Austrian Empire is the clearest of all: "Before the birth of the Antichrist there will be a great, protracted war and a terrible revolution in Russia passing all bounds of human imagination, for the bloodletting will be most terrible: the rebellions of Ryazan, Pugachev and the French revolution will be nothing in comparison with what will take place in Russia. Many people who are faithful to the fatherland will perish, church property and the monasteries will be robbed; the Lord's churches will be desecrated; good people will be robbed of their riches and killed, rivers of Russian blood will flow... But the Lord will have mercy on Russia and will bring her along the path of great sufferings to glory.""Constantinople and Jerusalem will be inhabited by the combined powers of Russia and the others. At the division of Turkey almost all will go to Russia, and Russia with the united forces of many other States will take Vienna, and about 7 million native Viennese will remain under the house of the Hapsburgs, and there the territory of the Austrian empire will be constructed. To France for her love for the Mother of God, the holy Madonna, will be given up to 17 million Frenchmen with its capital in the city of Rheims, while Paris will be completely destroyed…" (Source)

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Re: The restoration of Monarchy in Austria...
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2006, 02:21:16 AM »
Interesting, but difficult to imagine, is there said anything about the time, when this shall be happen? :o
 When we see modern countries like Austria or France today It´s difficult to imagine that they shall become monarchies again. Which kind of monarchies shall those be? Constitutionell ? Like in eralier times is´s almost impossible today. And concerning France, shall this be under the Borbons or under the Bonapartes??? ;)
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« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2006, 09:48:03 PM »
Interesting, but difficult to imagine, is there said anything about the time, when this shall be happen? :o
 When we see modern countries like Austria or France today It´s difficult to imagine that they shall become monarchies again. Which kind of monarchies shall those be? Constitutionell ? Like in eralier times is´s almost impossible today. And concerning France, shall this be under the Borbons or under the Bonapartes??? ;)

It will be a Borbon (a Spanish Bourbon) - the next King of Spain "Philippe VI" - according to St. Methodius of Olympus (see the first message above). The liberation of France and Spain and the rest of Western Europe from the Muslim invaders by King Philippe VI will have taken place before the liberation of Byzantium, according to same prophecy.

That is before 2033 AD, year when, according to another prophecy of the Byzantine Emperor Leo VI the Wise (886 - 912 AD), Byzantium will be liberated: "In six centuries minus about twenty years you will become powerful again" says Leo. Does this sentence predict the return of the glory of Byzantium? Constantinople fell in 1453. If we add 580 years to this date (600-20=580), we get 1453 + 580 = 2033 A.D.

The same year is obtained according to the prophecy of the Orthodox monk Agathanghelos (13th century): "The terrible century shall forward the golden-tenth number. Then honey and milk will flow in everything, the sea storms shall cease, and for full fifty years shall peace reign. Truth shall triumph, and the sky shall rejoice in true glory. The Orthodox Faith shall be uplifted, and shall spring from East to West in order to be blessed and praised. The barbarians shall be overcome with fright and, wholly trembling, shall headlong flee speedily, abandoning the world's metropolis (Constantinople), then God shall be glorified, and man shall see the works of His omnipotence. Let it be so, and it shall be so, Amen."

A plausible interpretation is that the length of time between the beginning of WW I (which brought about a "terrible century" of communist persecutions for the Orthodox Church) and the end of WW III fought for the liberation of Europe and then of Byzantium (see above prophecies by St. Methodius) is the "terrible century". Agathanghelos clearly indicates that after the "golden tenth" number is completed, events will come to pass that will lead to peace, the spread of a unified Apostolic Christianity, and the defeat of the barbarians (Muslims), who will flee Europe. Thus, the "golden tenth" number is the holy number 12 related to the number 10. By multiplying these numbers we get 12 x 10 = 120. With the beginning of WWI in 1914 A.D., we get the predicted date for the ending of evils after the "terrible century" to be 1914 A.D. + 120 years = 2034 A.D.

Therefore, according to all these Orthodox prophecies, the Monarchy in France will be restored under the Bourbons (Borbons) and will likely have taken place by 2034 AD.

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Re: The restoration of Monarchy in Austria...
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2006, 08:09:00 PM »
It will be a Borbon (a Spanish Bourbon) - the next King of Spain "Philippe VI" - according to St. Methodius of Olympus (see the first message above).
I apologize for the confusion. The message pointed out is not posted above, but on a different thread: "The restoration of Monarchy in France - prophecies".

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« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2006, 08:35:16 PM »
BorbonFan,

I find your posts very interesting.  I am a student of prophecy myself (Catholic prophecies, mainly).  They are very similar to what you are saying.  However, I do notice some differences.  The Catholic prophecies state that the "Great Monarch" (Felipe VI, I assume) will defeat the Moslems in Europe and reign over a restored version of the Roman Empire.  Do you believe that Felipe VI will rule over a rebuilt Christian Roman Empire in Europe or only a Spanish-Franco kingdom?  The Catholic prophecies also state that the Pope during the Moslem invasion will flee a destroyed Rome and be murdered by the opponents of Christ.  Have you read any Orthodox prophecies that would substantiate this? 

I am also curious about a timeline you may have for these events.  I would guess that the best date for a Moslem invasion of Europe would be 2011 or 2012.  Would you agree?  Thanks and God bless.   

Adam 

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Re: The restoration of Monarchy in Austria...
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2006, 09:08:51 PM »
Hello, Adam,

If you read the thread about the restoration of the French Monarchy, you will see that the Greek Saint Martyr and Bishop Methodius of Olympia (or Patara/Patares), a saint of the primary undivided Church - Orthodox and Catholic at the same time, before the Great Schism - prophesized that Rome will be conquered by the Ismaelitans (i.e. the Muslims, descendants of Abraham through his first born, Ismael). According to the same St. Methodius, Rome will then be liberated by the "blonde nation", which St. Andrew Fool-for-Christ interprets as being the Russians. The Russians will keep Rome occupied for 15 years. Only afterwards will Byzantium be liberated from under the Ismaelitans. Or, according to the prophecies of both Leo VI the Wise, Emperor of the Eastern Roman Empire, as well as of the Greek monk Agathanghelos, the liberation of Byzantium will take place around 2033-2034. If we subtract the 15 years of the Russian occupation of Rome that preceeds it, we get 2019. By 2019 the invasion of Rome and of Western Europe ("sun setting land" according to St. Methodius) by the Muslims will have already taken place. So the Orthodox estimations are very close to your Catholic estimations of 2011-2012.

As about the Great Monarch, two Orthodox prophecies announce the name of the king who will lead the pan-European Christian coalition of 18 nations that will liberate Byzantium from under the Muslims. His name is "Filip the sixth", according to the prophecies of St. Methodius and of the Greek hermit Grigorie of Jordan, given in 1868. Or, like I said on the French Monarchy thread, of the only two possible choices of Kings named Filip - Belgian and Spanish - the Spanish one fits perfectly, for military and geographic reasons. Therefore, it will be the next King of Spain, Felipe VI, the one announced by the Orthodox prophecies, same as the Great Monarch of the Catholic prophecies.

God will crown him with the glory of liberating Byzantium, through His direct intervention in the battle: a great earthquake will stop the biggest carnage ever, giving vivtory over to the Christian pan-European coalition, while angelic hosts will choose from the crowd an Emperor for the new Byzantium. Returning from this glorious and divine battle, Felipe VI of Spain will then be accepted as King by the grateful French, whom he will likely have also liberated from under the Muslims, just like he will have done with the Spanish and the rest of Western Europe, thus creating a personal union of the French and Spanish kingdoms.

King Felipe VI of Spain (Philippe VII of France) will not, however, restore a Western Roman Empire, since Austria will not fall under his rule. The Habsburgs will be restored on their ancient Throne in the Austrian Empire by the Russians, as the greatest Russian Saint Seraphim of Sarov prophesizes. More likely than not, the Borbons (Bourbons) will rule only over a united kingdom of Spain and France.

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Re: The restoration of Monarchy in Austria...
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2006, 10:29:59 PM »
BorbonFan,

Thanks for your explanation.  If, indeed, your sequence of events is correct, this is what I conclude from my knowledge of prophecy:

The Moslems will invade Europe around 2011-2012.  Civil wars and destruction will sweep the European continent, resulting in the sure destruction of Paris and the occupation of Rome by the Moslems.  While Felipe VI and his pan-European coalition drive the Moslems from Europe, the Russians will liberate Rome and occupy it for 15 years.  This 15 year occupation of Rome by the Russians is meant to restore Orthodox Christianity to the Roman Church and restore Christian culture in Europe.  During this time Felipe VI will reign over the Spanish-Franco kingdom from an undisclosed location (Rheims?), while the Hapsburgs are returned to the throne of Austria-Hungary.  In 2033-2034, the pan-European coalition under the leadership of King Felipe VI will desire to finish the job of conquering the Moslems.  This three-day battle will end with a great earthquake, signs in the heavens, and the intervention of a great angel of God.  The Holy Cross will also shine to mark the end of one era of Church history and the beginning of another more victorious one.  The throne of Byzantium will go to Felipe VI since he as the descendant of Ferdinand II of Aragon, who was left the rights to the throne of the Byzantine Empire by Andreas Palaiologos (nephew of Constantine XI, the last Byzantine Emperor), is the most natural holder of the throne.  He will be the last Orthodox Christian monarch and will reign in Constantinople as the last "Emperor of the Romans", mentioned in both Orthodox and Catholic prophecies.

I understand that this isn't exactly what you hold, but this is the most sense I can make of all the prophecies. 

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« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2006, 11:02:43 PM »
Looks like someone got off his meds, jumped the wall and visited the Alexander Palace Time Machine Forum. This tripe is worse than the Anna Anderson/ survivor threads. Is psychosis now a requisite for joining the forum?

 

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« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2006, 11:29:36 PM »
I understand that this isn't exactly what you hold, but this is the most sense I can make of all the prophecies. 

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Adam   

Hello, Adam,

Your understanding is correct, except that nobody can tell who God will ordain for the Throne of Eastern Roman Empire. King Felipe VI of Spain, as the leader of the pan-European coalition that will liberate Constantinople, is certainly the most worthy candidate that we know so far for the Imperial Throne, in terms of both valor and legitimity. As the leader of the coallition, he will have the de facto right to the Imperial Crown.

If, however, Felipe were truly the undisputed choice of Emperor, why would the Angels of the Lord have to intervene to handpick him from the midst of the Christian camp?! According to St. Methodius, there will certainly be great disagreement within the European coalliton as to who shall rule, big enough that God Himself will have to handpick the Emperor: "This victory will be given for the rebelious and disobedient ones". Felipe is, thus, not guaranteed a unanimous support not even from his very own coalition!

Here is the relevant part of St. Methodius' prophecy, translated from Romanian: "Then the ox will cry, the dry hills will weep. And the horses will stop. And a voice from Heaven will be heard saying: "Stop! Stop! Peace be unto you! Enough!" This victory will be given for the rebelious and disobedient ones. And He will say to them: "Come to the right-side of the city. There you shall find a man standing, with much chagrin, leaning against two pillars, wiping off his sweat off his coat. He will have a white beard, a righteous man, merciful, in simple outfit, meek. Middle-aged. And in the middle of his right leg he will have a birthmark. " And an angelic voice will proclaim: "Take him and crown him emperor!" And four lifegiving Angels will take him to the Lord's great cathedral Sofia,  and will crown him Emperor, and will give him a sword, saying: "Take heart and strength, and conquer your enemies!" And taking the sword from the Angels, he will fight off the Ismaelitans, the Ethiopians, the Europeans, the Tatars, and the other nations. And he will divide the Ismaelitans up in three parts: he will cleave one up by sword, the second he will baptize, and the third he will chase with great angst all the way to the Single Tree (Mecca). And returning from the battle, all the treasures of the world will be given over to him, and nobody will be poor."

It is true that King Felipe VI is a righteous man, a meek one, as any truly God-fearing man. What's more astounding, the future King of Spain does "lean against two pillars." These two are depicted clearly in his royal coat of arms, pillars on which his crown rests. Also, his kingdom itself "leans against two pillars": the pillars of Hercules -- the Gibraltar. Thus, there are many, many signs that King Felipe VI of Spain could be, indeed, the chosen one! However, his age rules him out: in 2034, Felipe will be about 65, not a "middle aged man" anymore... So it's not very clear it will be Felipe.

God willing, we will live to enjoy this wondrous and glorious moment and see who the Great Monarch shall be, if (a big "if") we survive the Muslim invasions foretold by so many Saints.

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« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2006, 12:12:09 AM »
BorbonFan,

I'm glad you agree with my summary.  As for the new Emperor of Byzantium being Felipe VI, it is important to remember that besides his rightful claim to the throne through the inheritance of Andreas Palaiologos, he is a direct 31st-generation descendant of the Byzantine Empress, Euphrosyne Doukaina Kamaterina.  This came about through the marriage of his great-great-grandfather, George I of Greece (on his mother's side), to Olga Konstantinovna of Russia, who was a direct 28th-generation descendant of the Empress.  From all of this, I'd say he has the best claim to the throne.  There may indeed be a dispute about his ascension to the throne, as he will already have much authority and honor in Europe, and there will be normal reluctance to give him more.  Wars may come, and Churches may unite, but human nature doesn't completely change.  :) 

St. Methodius' prophecy may need to be taken symbolically in some forms (although not completely), as you alluded to when you said that the two pillars may be symbolic of Felipe's Coat of Arms. 

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Re: The restoration of Monarchy in Austria...
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2006, 01:18:58 AM »
Looks like someone got off his meds, jumped the wall and visited the Alexander Palace Time Machine Forum. This tripe is worse than the Anna Anderson/ survivor threads. Is psychosis now a requisite for joining the forum?

 


I understand you, I also have problems to believe this, as it has some strange and impossible elements, but please ...we must also tolerate other points of view...Please be not too offending!
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« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2006, 04:25:42 PM »
Here is the relevant part of St. Methodius' prophecy, translated from Romanian: "Then the ox will cry, the dry hills will weep. And the horses will stop. And a voice from Heaven will be heard saying: "Stop! Stop! Peace be unto you! Enough!" This victory will be given for the rebelious and disobedient ones. And He will say to them: "Come to the right-side of the city. There you shall find a man standing, with much chagrin, leaning against two pillars, wiping off his sweat off his coat. He will have a white beard, a righteous man, merciful, in simple outfit, meek. Middle-aged. And in the middle of his right leg he will have a birthmark. " And an angelic voice will proclaim: "Take him and crown him emperor!" And four lifegiving Angels will take him to the Lord's great cathedral Sofia,  and will crown him Emperor, and will give him a sword, saying: "Take heart and strength, and conquer your enemies!" And taking the sword from the Angels, he will fight off the Ismaelitans, the Ethiopians, the Europeans, the Tatars, and the other nations. And he will divide the Ismaelitans up in three parts: he will cleave one up by sword, the second he will baptize, and the third he will chase with great angst all the way to the Single Tree (Mecca). And returning from the battle, all the treasures of the world will be given over to him, and nobody will be poor."

To have a prophecy one must first be a prophet. Neither the Orthodox Churches nor the Catholic Church recognise Methodious as a prophet but instead designate him a saint. Who made Saint Methodious a prophet?

Why would the so-called propheciy be translated from Roumanian when Saint Methodious spoke Greek?

The country we now call Roumania spoke a dialect of Latin at the time of this supposed prophecy, not Roumanian. Did Saint Methodious miraculously write in a future language to make it easier for you to read his message?

The Ethiopians were not known by this name at the time of Saint Methodius but rather called Abyssinians. This is more evidence that your so-called prophecies are of a more recent origin than the 9th century.

The Tatars were unknown in Europe at the time of Saint Methodious. At the time of Saint Methodious, the Ta-Ta Band of the Mongols were in Mongolia.

Answer the flaws in your writings or we have no reason to accept or treat you as a valid competent person.

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« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2006, 05:42:39 PM »
A saint (meaning a man belonging to or set apart for God) enjoys, as he grows in a closer and closer union with the Holy Ghost through much prayer, fasting, and charity, one or more of the many gifts imparted by Him: the gift of healing, of mighty deeds, of prophecy, of speaking in tongues, of wisdom, and many others mentioned in I Corinthians 12, 4-11. Such a gifted man is not called a "prophet" or a "healer" or by any name of any other divine gift; all these holy men are simply called "saints" in the Catholic and Orthodox Church. Such a saint was also Methodius of Olympus, and like him many, many others mentioned in the same book I quoted from, who have enjoyed the gift of prophecy, imparted to them by God in order to strengthen those of us weaker in our faith, when we see these prophecies fulfilled. Some saints like St. Methodius are known and celebrated in the religious calendars, many others died anonymously (e.g. hermit Grigorie of Jordan, who also prophesized "Filip the sixth") as hermits in the mountains or the deserts, praying incessantly for their own salvation and for that of the entire world.

The prophecy was written in Greek, St. Methodius' native tongue, while I translated it from Romanian, since I found it in a Romanian-language book, a compilation of many, many Orthodox prophecies written originally in the many languages of their respective authors, all Orthodox saints. I would have looked for it in a Greek book if I spoke Greek, but, alas, I do not speak it (yet). Rest assured, though, that the Greek-to-Romanian translation for the said book must have been done most carefully, with the blessing of and under the close supervision of the Romanian scheme priest-monk Nifont, founder of the Romanian skete "Prodromos" (St. John the Baptist "the Forerunner" - "Prodromos" in Greek) on Mount Athos - the spiritual capital of Orthodoxy. The skete belongs to a Greek monastery, the Holy Monastery of the Great Lavra, so father Nifont as well as the other Romanian monks who worked on this translation must have spoken Greek, as they had to interact on a regular basis with the Greek abbot of the Great Lavra, to whom they answered canonically and administratively.

As to the various names of nations, one of which did not exist in 3rd and 4th centuries C.E. when St. Methodius of Olympus lived, they must have been translated into a modern version of an ancient word, as the book was published in our modern contemporary era (1905). I confess I do not know the original Greek word recorded in the Mount Athos manuscripts, which was translated into Romanian as "Tatars." However, I have no reason whatsoever to doubt that the translation was most accurate and most appropriate for our understanding in our modern age. No monk on Mount Athos would dare to falsify or corrupt in slightest the teachings or writings of the Holy Fathers, for fear of compromising the salvation of his soul.

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« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2006, 01:52:34 AM »

Lets hope that never happens.......... However our history will be long, and until the sun burns out and we all suddenly freeze, many many changes will occur.  I SEEEE kings, presidents, tyrants, dictators, emperors & warlords coming and going, hopefully NOT an antichrist, but you never know..

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« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2006, 10:19:18 AM »
hopefully NOT an antichrist, but you never know..

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Hi, James. These prophecies, as any Christian saints' prophecies, are meant for those believers with a weaker faith in the Lord to grow stronger in it when they see them fulfilled. Whether one chooses to believe in them or not is inextricably linked to whether or not one believes in God and His Christ Who sent these visions to His saints. Since you do not seem to believe in Jesus Christ (as you do not believe in the antichrist foretold by the Book of Revelation), please, feel free to ignore these prophecies.

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