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Re: King Louis Napoleon and queen Hortense of Holland
« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2007, 02:53:03 PM »
It's her first son Napoléon Charles, by Gérard, Fontainebleau.
Original title: Portrait d' Hortense, reine de Hollande avec le Prince royal de Hollande.


(Photo RMN ©Gérard Blot)

Are you sure about that? I made the experience that the children of Hortense and Louis are often confused on portraits. I saw the same portrait in different sources and sometimes it was also stated that the boy is Hortense´s second son, Napoleon Louis or even that it is Napoleon III. It´s quite strange. It´s a pity that portraits of the oldest son (Napoléon-Charles) seem to be very rare. I once found a nice portait of him, and then in another source it was stated that it represented the brother, and not Napoléon-Charles.
Can you tell me, where you found that portrait? Thanks ;)
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Re: King Louis Napoleon and queen Hortense of Holland
« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2007, 08:51:30 PM »
Here are a few images of Hortense Beauhernais Bonaparte:








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Re: King Louis Napoleon and queen Hortense of Holland
« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2007, 04:18:24 AM »
The book "The Bonpartes on Arenenberg" says about Hortense (it was how the duchess ofAbrantès (Madame junot) saw her: "She had everything, which made a woman attractive: The features of her face were not the most beautiful, but so adorable in their expression that it made everyone forget about the irregularities of certain parts of her face like her mouth and her nose. Even the bad teeth were forgiven to the adorable face. She had wonderful ash blonde hair, which fell like a coat around her, the huge, tenderly looking eyes were like a vile, the rosy teint gave her an unique, innocent expression(...)
She had a pretty and charming figure, petite hands and feet. From her mother Josephine she had inheritated the creolic body, even when she was a bit taller than her mother. Her moving was ductile and easy. When she danced - and she loved dancing- all eyes on her. Her limbs presented a wonderfully harmonic combination of grace and beauty. She had a tender health, but loved the life und its pleasures, was not only a lovely dancer, but also good in playing comedies, so that she would have been a great protagonist for the arena. Maybe one can critisize that she behaved too comedian like in different situations of her life.
Like queen Hortense was from the outside, she was from the inside, as well. She was  gentle, gallantly, devoting, and very agreeable. The two most important points of her character were cheerfulness and love of life. Even when she was sometimes funny and sneering, it never defended other people around her. Always was the female sensitivity the most important, which came through. She was always for the good things and contemned the bad. Sometimes she could be hardheaded, if she felt herself not understood in a correct way. She was sometimes superstitious, evidently also a bit coquettish, and loved to show her fantasy and her mooth very openly. She had all talents, which were important for a noble woman at that time: She could sing, paint and draw. She had taken lessons with the famous painter Isabey, and others had given her lessons in the "Institute Campan". There exist a lot of art works by her, which show how good she was: Not only a wonderful self portrait in the garden of Malmaison. She played the harpe and the fortepiano, and was very knowing in literature and poetry. She wrote romances and composed the music for it. She did hand works as well.  Like her mother she dressed herself very good , but without any extravagance. Her taste was wonderful and sometimes the emperor´s sisters were jealous of that (...)
In general she was the pure contrary of her husband, who was close- mouthed, distrustful, cantankerous, and horribly jealous, so the marriage was not happy, but rather some kind of torture for both sides (...)
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Re: King Louis Napoleon and queen Hortense of Holland
« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2007, 04:30:17 AM »
The eldest son Napoléon-Charles



"At the time, when Napoleon was still married to Josephine he wanted this clever and intelligent boy to become his successor, for the case that he and Josephine won´t get children anymore. But unfortunately he died with five years because of diphtheria." (Hugentobler: The Bonapartes of Arenenberg)



Hortense and her both surviving sons: The elder one is Napoléon Louis, who died in quite early age, too, and the other with long hair, the youngest, is the future emperor Napoléon III:
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Re: King Louis Napoleon and queen Hortense of Holland
« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2007, 07:52:54 AM »
"At the time, when Napoleon was still married to Josephine he wanted this clever and intelligent boy to become his successor, for the case that he and Josephine won´t get children anymore. But unfortunately he died with five years because of diphtheria." (Hugentobler: The Bonapartes of Arenenberg)

Really? I have read that he wanted Prince Eugéne to become his successor (at least untill the divorce)?

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Re: King Louis Napoleon and queen Hortense of Holland
« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2007, 09:32:23 AM »
Queen Hortense was very beautiful. Does anyone know what happened to all her lovely jewellery, especially that grey pearl tiara she is shown wearing in a couple of the portraits?

Did Hortense get in trouble for having an illegitimate son?

What was Hortense's full birth name? Ie. what was her middlen name/s?

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Re: King Louis Napoleon and queen Hortense of Holland
« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2007, 01:51:49 PM »
I am not sure, but might it be that the jewellery went to the house of Sveden or something? Because of Josephines granddaughter, who had the name Josephine as well (the daughter of Hortenses brother Eugène) married Oscar of Sveden. I am not sure, that is only an idea. I remember to have read this. Maybe another person knows more ;)

The book by Hugentobler says that Hortense was baptized on the names "Eugènie Hortense de Beauharnais". I suppose that these were her only names.
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Re: King Louis Napoleon and queen Hortense of Holland
« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2007, 03:17:45 PM »
There are some pieces that went from Empress Josephine into the Swedish Royal Family, but I don't think any of the jewellery we see Hortense wearing in the paintings is amongst them.

They don't have that gorgeous grey pearl tiara.

I prefer the name Hortense to Eugenie, I'm glad she went by that name.

Maybe someone knows more about the jewellery?

And also I wanted to know, wasn't it a scandal or disgrace that Hortense had an illegitimate son, or did no one care?

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King Louis Napoleon and Queen Hortense of Holland
« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2012, 12:51:43 AM »
There will be a special exhibition on King Louis Napoléon,the first of the Dutch Kings,at the Royal Palace,Amsterdam starting this june 29th till september 16th.

http://www.paleisamsterdam.nl/en/category/exhibitions/upcoming/

Queen Hortense also was a composer,a passtime she often turned to while here:

http://www.paleisamsterdam.nl/en/history/palace-of-louis-napoleon-1808-1813/





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