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Eric_Lowe

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Your Ten Most Disliked Royals and why
« on: August 22, 2006, 10:43:50 PM »
You asked for it and here goes...

1. Charlotte of Saxe-Meiningen: A vious trouble maker.
2. Empress Augusta : Opportuntist and unkind to Vicky.
3. Archduchess Sophie: Mother-in-law from Hell.
4. Leopold II : money grabbing moster with no feeling for his wife andf family.
5. George IV: A nightmare of a husband.
6. George I : A most disagreeable charecter.
7. Karol II : A most twisted charecter cruel to his family and failure as a ruler.
8. Elisabetta: another damaged person full of spite.
9. Montpensier: A most sinister person with designs on his sister-in-law's throne.
10. The late Comte de Paris : A man full of bitterness towards his family.
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Re: Your Ten Most Hated Royals and why
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2006, 10:55:44 PM »
Well, some of mine just fall more into dislike than hate but here goes--again, no particular order

Carol II--vile and weak
Leopold II--rotten father, horrible exploitation of the Congo--disgusting and reprehensible
Duke of Windsor--just don't like him; weak and has done more to ruin the reputation of his parents than almost anyone and often with false tales; called his ill brother John 'no better than an animal' yet accuses his mother of being icy
Sisi--beautiful but cold and selfish
Elisabeth of Romania--horrible daughter, wife and sister--a trifecta of nastiness
Dona--kissed Wilhelm's rear incessantly and helped contribute to Vicky's unhappiness; narrow-minded religious bigot
Kyril--cold-hearted opportunist
Serge--cold, intolerant anti-Semitic (even by Romanov standards); cruel Mayor of Moscow; disliked by a good number of members of his family; rather makes my skin crawl

I'm sure there are a number I'm forgetting so I'm going to withhold a couple spots until I'm not so tired  :)

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Re: Your Ten Most Hated Royals and why
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2006, 11:35:12 PM »
Duke of Windsor--just don't like him; weak and has done more to ruin the reputation of his parents than almost anyone and often with false tales; called his ill brother John 'no better than an animal' yet accuses his mother of being icy.

GDella:

Have read that the Duke of York, later George VI, was very close to his brother John and his defender of sorts.

Is this correct?

Eric_Lowe

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Re: Your Ten Most Hated Royals and why
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2006, 11:45:48 PM »
No...Not the Duke of York, but the Duke of Kent.

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Re: Your Ten Most Hated Royals and why
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2006, 12:09:50 PM »
Yes, it was George. The 2 boys were very close and George was very protective of him. It was very sweet.
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Re: Your Ten Most Hated Royals and why
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2006, 09:02:21 PM »
Yes dramatised in the series "The Lost Prince". I wonder what the Kents felt about the whole portrayal of their father as a sensative boy. ???

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Re: Your Ten Most Hated Royals and why
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2006, 09:25:53 PM »

Elisabeth of Romania--horrible daughter, wife and sister--a trifecta of nastiness


LOL!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Eric_Lowe

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Re: Your Ten Most Hated Royals and why
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2006, 09:26:56 PM »
Agreed ! The Wicked Witch !  ;D

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Re: Your Ten Most Hated Royals and why
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2006, 08:56:02 PM »
I've formed a rather interesting opinion on Queen Victoria: on one hand, it was known that she could be kind & generous, yet on the other hand, she could be also extremely narrow-minded & somewhat cold towards those she disliked. (though I'm sure we're all guilty of that at some point or another) I also disagree with the 'idolatry', as it were, of Albert. As much as he seemed to be a good guy, I think Victoria did overromanticize the dead & became rather morbid. So in a way, I like her & dislike her at the same time.
I also would say that I dislike Edward VIII, I find him a whiny, irresponsable, brat.

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Re: Your Ten Most Hated Royals and why
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2006, 10:07:30 PM »
Well...QV is a romantic and that gives me huge points. After Alix staged a meeting with her togather with Eddy and Helene, QV was so moved by the lovers that she was ready to support the love bird's bid (almost impossible) for marriage.  ;)

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Re: Your Ten Most Hated Royals and why
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2006, 10:47:51 PM »
I'm not numbering them, as I don't know who to place where, but:|

-Empress Dona: a totally selfish little fundie prig, notoriously stupid (once asking a harem eunich attendant if his father had been a eunich as well!), treated her mother in law like dirt (when, without said mother-in-law's support she would never have married William, not to mention the fact that her in-laws were good friends of her parents), and once told her sister-in-law, Sophie, that she was going to Hell for converting to Eastern Orthodoxy.  HOWEVER, I do feel sympathy for her when it comes to the suicide of her youngest son, Joachim-that had to be rough.

-King Alfonso XIII: I will give him major props for attempting to seriously help the Imperial Family after the Russian Revolution, especially as Nicholas's closer friends and relations abandoned him (George V, I'm looking in YOUR direction!).  But the way he treated his wife, Ena, was just inexcusable.  He KNEW when he married her that she was a potential hemophillia carrier-he was warned about it, and didn't care.  Until his eldest son almost bled to death when he was circumcised as a baby, and THEN he started blaming poor Ena.  Screwed around on her as well.

-King Constantine II of Greece: fascist sympathies, meddling in politics when he didn't know any better, and whining about not having a throne.  Boohoo, my heart is breaking, it really is.

-Queen Elisabetta of Greece: (nee of Roumania).  Total nightmare, flirted with her sister's husband when said sister was recovering after giving birth.  Treated everyone around her like filth-there's not a single good word I can say for her.

-King Karol II of Roumania:  "I want to be King-no wait, I want to abdicate-no, now I want to be King again!  No, wait, I changed my mind!"  Deserted his post during WWI to marry a local girl, then had the marriage annulled and treated his former wife and son like crap.  Whatever you think of Paul Lambrino, that was just unforgivable.  Treated his second wife the same way.  Divorced her and eloped with his mistress, abdicating his position as heir.  When his father died and his son became King, he changed his mind and came back, and overthrew his own son-only to AGAIN abdicate a few years later.  Make up your mind, jackass!  Married off his youngest sister to a man she hardly knew (Although I think Anton seemed like a decent guy, he and Ileana were never in love, from what I gather), then had her kicked out of the country because her husband was a foreigner-the same guy HE made her marry! 

-Grand Duchess Maria Pavelovna, the elder: craven opportunist who refused to convert to Orthodoxy...until she found out her son couldn't inherit the throne unless she did so.  Hooboy, can we say hypocrite?   Greedy, selfish, and generally unpleasant.

-Crown Prince Djordje of Serbia: most likely a sociopath.  Was forced to renounce his rights to the throne after he kicked his valet to death.  Tried to drown his cousin, Prince Paul, and used to shoot blanks at his feet to make him jump.  He once was driving a car with his younger brother, the future Alexander I of Yugoslavia, and jumped out at the last minute.  The car went into a ditch and Alexander was injured.

-Kaiser Wilhelm II: while I DO find him entertaining, I think the way he treated his mother and father was simply disgusting.  Practically ripped the crown from his dying father's head and put his mother under virtual house arrest to make sure none of his father's papers or diaries were released-did the same thing when his mother died.  He CLAIMED he was only trying to prevent important state papers from getting out, but that was bull-he just wanted to make sure no one realized from their diaries what a jackass he was.  Blamed his sister, Sophie, for the poor health of his son Joachim, because she converted to Orthodoxy, the religion of her adopted country, and banished her from Germany. 

-Prince Fritz Carl of Prussia: the father of Princess Louise of Prussia, later the Duchess of Connaught, he reportedly boxed his wife's ears so bad when Louise was born that she had hearing problems for the rest of her life.  Apparently, he was pissed that his wife had given birth to a third daughter.  He was notoriously cruel and despotic.

-King Leopold II of Belgium: a hateful, cruel despot who was responsible for untold amounts of suffering and brutality in Africa.





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Re: Your Ten Most Hated Royals and why
« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2006, 01:05:09 AM »
What an excellent list Guinistasia!

I would however remove a few of your simply vile and unpleasant royals and replace them with those who did serious harm to their countries and people. We agree on Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany, King Leopold II of Belgium and King Karol II of Roumania but I would add King Vittorio Emanuel III of Italy for lending the Fascists legitimacy, for lending support however superficial to the pre-World War II invasions of Ethiopia and Albania and for signing the Anti-Semetic laws which led to the deaths of many thousands of Italians. Emperor Franz Josef II of Austria-Hungary needs to be added to the list for the bad treatment of Crown Prince Rudolf and Archduke Ferdinand but mainly because he withheld evidence implicating the Black Hand and the Serbian Army in the murders of Ferdinand and Sophie and refused to release this information to the public, an action that forced the Russians into the First World War. King Alexander I of Yugoslavia whose dream of a Greater Serbia, led to the forced integration of a number of Austrian and Hungarian Provinces and the betrayal of his own father-in-law the King of Montenegro. More than eighty years of turmoil and human suffering would haunt the peoples of his forced creation. Empress Aleksandra of Russia for unbounded arrogance and ignorance wrapped in piety and propriety that brought tremendous suffering and death to millions of Russian people. Emperor Nikolai II of Russia for not keeping his wife in line, for taking control of the troops at the front, for being just stupid enough not to know that he was stupid and thus had limitations.

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Re: Your Ten Most Hated Royals and why
« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2006, 04:23:19 AM »
Well...I don't agree on Empress Dona and King Constantine II. They may not be on my favourite royal list. But hated ? Seems like you do have some issues with them . Although as far as Dona is concerned, I think the thing that annoys me is not the things dhe did, but what she didn't ! She just stood there and let those people (including her own sister) suffer (usually caused by her husband) without any comfort from her.  >:(

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Re: Your Ten Most Hated Royals and why
« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2006, 10:58:26 AM »
Tell us how you really feel, Guinastia.  ;) Seriously though, great list--and very entertaining!

I agree with David that being vile isn't as bad as causing tons of misery but we all need a few pet 'hates' (or strong dislikes) based just on personality and wretchedness.  :)
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Re: Your Ten Most Hated Royals and why
« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2006, 11:06:42 AM »
 :D

Actually, Nicholas, Alexandra and Alexander of Yugoslavia are three of my favorites. 
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