Your Ten Most Disliked Royals and why

[grandduchessella]

I don't think it referred directly towards her morganatic lineage since it wasn't her Teck hands commented on but her Wurttemburg hands. I think that QM had rather large hands (she almost never had them photographed, either wearing gloves or holding something) and was a bit sensitive about them. It was just a mean-spirited slap (the Wales girls, save for Maud, were very possessive of their only surviving brother) along the lines of Toria's 'she's a dreadful bore' comment.

[TampaBay]

GD Ella,

The thread is getting a bit heavy.  Could you please  start a Part II.

I thank you in advance for all your efforts.

TampaBay

[Eric_Lowe]

I have a feeling that what Charly may have said hurt May more than the Wales girls comments did.  Charly was certainly capable of that as even Vicky spoke of it with dread.

[Eddie_uk]

I have a feeling that what Charly may have said hurt May more than the Wales girls comments did.  Charly was certainly capable of that as even Vicky spoke of it with dread.

A shame you don't have references to back it up.

The author of Battle Royal wrote  Louise was referring to Mays morgantic lineage as the ultimate slur.

[Eric_Lowe]

My source is straight from royalty and that is good enough for me. 

Not the ultimate slur, May was made to understood that she was not royal enough at an early age. Her title of Serene Highness stood out among the HRH and HIH's in royal gatherings. This fact is very well known.

[Eddie_uk]

Not the ultimate slur, May was made to understood that she was not royal enough at an early age. Her title of Serene Highness stood out among the HRH and HIH's in royal gatherings. This fact is very well known.

Sorry that makes no sense at all. Serene Highness is considered lower than HRH and HIH.

[dmitri]

May felt inferior because as a Serene Highness she stood out as being of lower rank than the rest

[Eric_Lowe]

Exactly...She felt her lower status acutely as well as lack of money. It was written that she was genuinely surprise when someone asked for her acutograph at a charity bazaar. "Are you sure you want me...not my cousins ?" she was reputed to have said. I think she would have been too easy a target for the sharp-tongued  Charly.

[Tdora1]

@ Dolguruky18                                                                                                                                                                      Charlotte was not at all the maligned devotee of surgery - it was her daughter and fellow porphyria-sufferer Feodora of Reuss who was on the end of criticism for her desire to find a surgical cure for her ailments. Chiefly from her mother:  "The knife you know I abhor and can but be fatal in every respect" sayeth Chalotte in one of her first letters in years to her estranged and likewise-ailing daughter. Source Rohl et al "Purple Secret"                                                                                                                                                 

[dolgoruky18]

Yes, I have no doubt you're right. I have read that book  -  and others on the subject. Isn't porphyria a fascinating illness ? Tragic for sufferers, of course. I think it can be traced back to Charles VI of France and beyond him to his mother, Queen Jeanne.

[Eddie_uk]

Not the ultimate slur, May was made to understood that she was not royal enough at an early age. Her title of Serene Highness stood out among the HRH and HIH's in royal gatherings. This fact is very well known.

Exactly...She felt her lower status acutely as well as lack of money. It was written that she was genuinely surprise when someone asked for her acutograph at a charity bazaar. "Are you sure you want me...not my cousins ?" she was reputed to have said. I think she would have been too easy a target for the sharp-tongued  Charly.

So why were references to her lower status not the ultimate slur? That's what Louise and Toria where getting at. If her title stood out at royal gatherings it's because she was lower than them! Not for anything else Eric!!!!

[Eric_Lowe]

Partly because it was the truth. Mary Adelaide DID made a messalliance with Francis Teck, who was a product of a morganetic marriage. It is proper according to continental rules of precedence to look down on those of less pure breeds. Queen Olga of Wuttemburg (Grand Duchess of Russia) personaly blocked the Tecks application to be raise to being Dukes of Wuttemberg. I don't need to go down on all the humilations of what the Tecks's relatives the Battenbergs had to suffer in Europe. The morganetics found a haven in QV's court who is friendly towards them (which is unusual). It would be natural for Charly to look down on the poor Tecks & Battenbergs (Remember she shared her brother Willy in matters of this sort). 

[grandduchessella]

This topic (part I) has ended and further discussions (please quote from here if needed) should be continued on Part II.

[Eric_Lowe]

Is part two up and running already ?