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FunBobbyNY

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Re: The Alexander Palace at the Newark Museum
« Reply #30 on: November 10, 2004, 12:01:45 PM »
Hi Guys:

I'm visiting the Newark Museum either on Friday or Saturday.  On Friday, the museum is open from 12:00 to 5:00, whereas on Saturday, its open from 10:00-5:00.  Is five hours enough time to thoroughly enjoy the exhibit and gift shop or should I give myself 7 hours?  I'd rather go Friday, but don't want to be rushed...

Any thoughts?

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« Reply #31 on: November 10, 2004, 02:09:28 PM »
You will have plenty of time, robert! me and my family went from 12-4:30 and we had time to walk through the exhibit twice, once with a guide and once on our own, and spend due time in TWO gift shops AND see like 4 other exhibits. don't worry.

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« Reply #32 on: November 15, 2004, 10:21:26 PM »
*bump*
Sorry to bump this thread up, but I just joined today and this is a topic that I would like to ask about. I had wanted to see the lecture with Mr.Massie, but due to the fact that my car died, I couldn't make it. However I will be going within the next month. I guess I have a few questions, if someone could help me that would be awesome.

Questions:
a) Can I take in my Digital Camera?
b) What other things could you buy that isn't shown on the Newark site?  -- The reason I ask this is because I live in Canada, I gotta bring my money before I cross the border, so I would like to have a ballpark figure of what I should expect to see --
c) Well, this was almost already answered, but I was just curious anyway.... I would like to be able to take my sweet time through this exibit, and take in everything I can. How long do you guys suppose it takes to go though? Should I go at opening and manage to be done by close? Or should I take this over a few days?

Did anyone get a picture of Mr. Massie? If you did, I would forever love it if someone would email me a pictiure of him (lmabee@gmail.com)

Thanks so much everyone ^_^

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« Reply #33 on: November 15, 2004, 10:27:26 PM »
Robert (and Laura, too): When Lanie and I went through the first time in Santa Fe there were alot of people there. We came back first thing in the morning the following day, to a much smaller crowd of people, and we enjoyed ourselves more. So, I would think the crowds would be smaller on a Friday than on a Saturday in Newark. And they are generally smaller first thing in the morning, but you might want to ask the museum.

You cannot take photos in the exhibit AFAIK.

Hope you have a great time!

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« Reply #34 on: November 16, 2004, 08:55:21 AM »
Thanks for the help guys! I appreciate it very much ^_^

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« Reply #35 on: November 16, 2004, 12:35:39 PM »
Oh, it sound's so excellent !! ;D I would have love to have gone, but I live in England ! I so wish I could go....

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« Reply #36 on: November 16, 2004, 03:10:15 PM »
Hey All:

To be frank, I was kind of disappointed in the exhibition.  I suppose I was expecting something similar to the Broughton Exhibition in Wilmington, DE so I thought I'd be spending all day looking at the exhibition and then another two hours or so in the gift shop...  Not so.

Going through the exhibition (at most) took an hour.  Going through the items in the gift shop (which was severely limited and severly over-priced ($13.00 for a freakin magnet!) took about 20 minutes.  Like AnastasiaFan, I only spent $40...of which I bought the catalog ($25), and 2 hand-painted mouth blown glass eggs ($8.95 a piece).

Not to sound overly negative because I don't want to discourage future exhibitions...but it really wasn't worth the drive...

Just my opinion...was anyone else disappointed?




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« Reply #37 on: November 16, 2004, 03:52:09 PM »
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Hey All:

To be frank, I was kind of disappointed in the exhibition.  I suppose I was expecting something similar to the Broughton Exhibition in Wilmington, DE so I thought I'd be spending all day looking at the exhibition and then another two hours or so in the gift shop...  Not so.

Going through the exhibition (at most) took an hour.  Going through the items in the gift shop (which was severely limited and severly over-priced ($13.00 for a freakin magnet!) took about 20 minutes.  Like AnastasiaFan, I only spent $40...of which I bought the catalog ($25), and 2 hand-painted mouth blown glass eggs ($8.95 a piece).

Not to sound overly negative because I don't want to discourage future exhibitions...but it really wasn't worth the drive...

Just my opinion...was anyone else disappointed?


That does sound dissapointing.  To be honest I was going to save like $250 just for the gift shop. I wanted to get one of the necklaces, and definatly going to get a cataloge. I wish I could have gone to the exhibit in DC. Problem is I was younger when that was one, and had no car of my own  :(


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« Reply #38 on: November 16, 2004, 04:01:02 PM »
I was admittedly quite disappointed by the exhibit. For several reasons, one being the limitations of the actual exhibit-although we were rushed for time. I too was expecting an exhibit more like the one that came through a few years ago. I suppose my only chance now for seeing all of that stuff is to actually go to the Alexander Palace, or to look through that big exhibition book I own again.

So I was disappointed. But you know, how many times does anyone get the chance to see ANY of this stuff? So I guess it was still "worth it". But I think if you go in there expecting the last exhibit, you'll be quite surprised. So take it for what it's worth.

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« Reply #39 on: November 16, 2004, 04:04:57 PM »
Hi Robert--

I visited the exhibit in Santa Fe rather than Newark, but I'm assuming that it was pretty much the same exhibit. And I flew across three states--me, who is terrified of flying!--in order to see the exhibit, using money I didn't necessarily have, so I'm relieved that the exhibit, for me, didn't disappoint!

Perhaps it has to do with one's expectations. I found a great deal to admire and examine, especially when it came to the photo albums, the letters from abroad sent to the Tsar, etc. I also was amazed to see so many paintings and other items--that I had previously seen in black-and-white photos from the time of Nicholas and Alexandra--and to see them so CLOSE!

As for your disappointment, I am reminded what actor Charlton Heston once said of Michaelangelo, whom he was portraying in a film: "I'm sure there were times when he looked at his sculptures and paintings and said, 'Why don't you breathe, damn it!'" I think that feeling might also apply to museum displays. We can admire what we see, but no matter how much we enjoy the experience, the truth remains that we can never really relive, in totality, an experience or an era . . . we can only receive glimmers of what has passed, and will never come again. What a frustrating reminder that time is always slipping away from us!

Janet

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« Reply #40 on: November 16, 2004, 04:22:27 PM »
It's disappointing to hear that the exhibit isn't that great.  I'm flying into Newark on Dec 22nd and planned on taking in the exhibit.  I probably still will...

Back in the 1970's, when I was a child, my mother took me to an exhibit of clothes, paintings and jewels of imperial Russia at the Metropolitain Museum of Art.  I remember seeing Catherine the Great's wedding dress.  

Also, it was always nice to stroll into the Forbes collection (60 5th Ave.) and check out the Faberge stuff.  Alexis' toys were on display there for a while as well.  Does anyone know if they're still there?
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« Reply #41 on: November 16, 2004, 06:33:44 PM »
Yep, I wasn't disappointed either, but like AnastasiaFan said, I was happy to see anything beloging to the Imperial family because I hadn't seen anything in real life before and I didn't go to the previous exhibit.

Rich C, they did have some of Alexei's toys there. I don't know how many you saw at the other exhibit, but they had a clock that he made himself with a kit, and some hammers and workshop materials of his, and they had that little miniature shed thing that was painted with stripes... i don't know if you know what I'm talking about, but there is a photo somewhere of Alexei standing next to it as a child  and it was about his height. They also had a Steif bear and a fox, and some furniture.

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« Reply #42 on: November 16, 2004, 08:08:44 PM »
I was not disappointed. I came by train from LA to Santa Fe with Lanie and my family. We saw the exhibit twice and as I said, I enjoyed the second pass much better than the first.

It's important that these get support from people like us, because if they don't, there will be fewer of them coming over here - and we will all be the poorer for it.

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« Reply #43 on: November 16, 2004, 09:46:06 PM »
Yes, the sentry box was wonderful! Also I very much liked seeing Vanka's elaborate and very colorful tack from the King of Italy. I wonder if Newark found a small model burro or donkey to display Vanka's tack, as did Santa Fe?

Sure, it would have been nice to see a few more items of clothing, but all the same we did see Tatiana's regiment uniform, a cloak used by Nicholas, a tea dress or two of Alexandra's, plus quite a bit more that I can't document right now because I don't have the catalog beside me.

I agree with Lisa that those of us who can should support this exhibit. Consider that all these wonderful items have come to the United States, saving many of us the trouble of having to arrange a passport, hotel accomodations, a transAtlantic flight, etc. Also, consider that for one year those of us in the United States have the opportunity to see some of the fabulous items that might one day might permanently return to the palace!  

Now that my memory has been jogged, I'll add that I was fascinated by a clock that Nicholas kept in his study. And of course the clock that Alexei apparently assembled from a kit (no doubt with some supervision from Gilliard, Gibbes, or one of his sailor nurses!) was also delightful.

Perhaps my favorite item was a leather-working kit owned by the grand duchesses. As a vegetarian, I'm not sure why a leather-working kit would appeal to me . . . perhaps because it illustrated that beyond being royal, they were first and foremost children, and interested in the same sort of artsy-craftsy things that you and I begged our parents to buy for us! Yes, there were glamorous, sometimes eye-popping items on display. But the charm of many of the artifacts lay in the fact that they had once been part of a "cosy" home.

If I'd had more time in Santa Fe, I would have returned for at least two more visits. Because I've found that once acquainted with an exhibit, the experience is enhanced by seeing how others react to what's on display!  

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« Reply #44 on: November 16, 2004, 10:03:56 PM »
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Yes, the sentry box was wonderful! Also I very much liked seeing Vanka's elaborate and very colorful tack from the King of Italy. I wonder if Newark found a small model burro or donkey to display Vanka's tack, as did Santa Fe?
 


Yep, they had a cute little plastic donkey! And a b/w photograph of Alexei with the REAL Vanka for comparison! :)