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Re: Love Lives of William and Harry
« Reply #45 on: September 26, 2006, 06:51:29 AM »
While the Queen is still alive, I have faith that not anything is possible...

Letizia and Mette-Marit I have to say, appeal to me a million times more than either Chelsy or Kate does.

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« Reply #46 on: September 26, 2006, 08:58:24 AM »
However with Charles at the helm...Anything is possible. :(

I think they are all the same. divorced career girls, unwed mothers invloved in junkies...Maybe the next one will be a porn star, wait...Andrew nearly married one right ? Koo Stark !  ::)

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Re: Love Lives of William and Harry
« Reply #47 on: September 26, 2006, 09:07:43 AM »


I hate to be the bearer of bad news:  getting married is not about choosing a spouse on the basis of one's blood line these days. I think you need to accept the fact that such marriages are few and far between and have been far and few between for more than 40 years now!

Being a duke's daughter does not make better qualified to be a queen ...
I won't join the debate on whether a commoner is suitable to wed a future monarch - these are different times, and there simply aren't that many princesses left to choose from.  Plus, royal marriages are no longer for political reasons, which was the principal objective of inter-royal marriages.

That said, it would add a certain level of grandeur not seen in generations if William married a foreign princess.  Especially were she the daughter of a reigning monarch.   The regal splendour of two sets of monarchs on either side of the alter would certainly be impressive - not to mention the processions, the jewelry, etc. 

Come to think of it - when was the last time a reigning British monarch or heir apparent married the son or daughter of a reigning king or queen (except for a reigning duke or prince).  It wasn't Phillip, Elizabeth, Mary, Alex, Albert, Adelaide, any of the Georges.  Anybody know?

That would be so impressive to have 4 royal parents next to the bride and groom. But Camilla would be there too. ;) To me a child or grandchild of non-reigning monarchs or other royals would definitely be good enough. Any royal blood is still royal blood and Philip, Mary, Alix, Albert, Adelaide and the Queen consorts of the Georges all had that. Elizabeth had aristocratic and noble blood and some royal blood going back a number of generations, so that's good enough for me. :)

There aren't many Princesses with reigning monarchs as parents to choose from, but there are certainly A LOT of young ladies with royal blood to choose from. So many..... I could post a list if you don't believe me. :P
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« Reply #48 on: September 26, 2006, 09:10:51 AM »
And one's bloodline is a guarantee. Queen Alexandra's sister Thyra (who would've been the Queen of Hanover except for that country siding with Austria in the war with Prussia) was the mother of an illegitimate child. She still made an admirable wife and mother and consort--she was frequently at the side of Emperor Franz Josef in Austria due to Sisi's absences.
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« Reply #49 on: September 26, 2006, 09:17:06 AM »
Indeed ! Thyra was Franz Josef 's favourite dance partner (they open the balls in Sisi's absence). She was a gentle woman who was sweet as well as charming.  ;)

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« Reply #50 on: September 26, 2006, 09:48:27 AM »
She also suffered, however, a breakdown and was hospitalized for sometime

And one's bloodline is a guarantee. Queen Alexandra's sister Thyra (who would've been the Queen of Hanover except for that country siding with Austria in the war with Prussia) was the mother of an illegitimate child. She still made an admirable wife and mother and consort--she was frequently at the side of Emperor Franz Josef in Austria due to Sisi's absences.
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« Reply #51 on: September 26, 2006, 10:13:58 AM »
Yes...but she bounced back like a true Glucksborg !  ;D

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« Reply #52 on: September 26, 2006, 10:24:33 AM »
I don't think bounced back is the right word.
Yes...but she bounced back like a true Glucksborg !  ;D
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« Reply #53 on: September 26, 2006, 10:42:44 AM »
And one's bloodline is a guarantee. Queen Alexandra's sister Thyra (who would've been the Queen of Hanover except for that country siding with Austria in the war with Prussia) was the mother of an illegitimate child. She still made an admirable wife and mother and consort--she was frequently at the side of Emperor Franz Josef in Austria due to Sisi's absences.

Mette-Marit does not have a royal bloodline, but also had a child out of wedlock and seems to be doing fine as a wife, mother and consort too.   I don't think the bloodline is really what counts here.

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« Reply #54 on: September 26, 2006, 10:51:24 AM »
Well...One should not pick exceptions. Alexandra, Mary, Adelaide, Charlotte all good queen consorts have royal bloodlines.  ;)

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« Reply #55 on: September 26, 2006, 11:03:26 AM »
The point is that William and Harry be allowed to choose their own spouse and have time to get know those spouses and then fall in love. Like I said, they're not going to choose pornstars, and I doubt they've even met the Hiltons. Their future spouses are their decision and it doesn't look like they're knocking on Theodora or Madeleine's door OR Paris, Nicky, or Jordan's. As much as we would love to pick their wives for them, we can't. Marrying royal doesn't always mean a happy marriage and marrying a commoner doesn't always mean a bad one. And vice versa.

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« Reply #56 on: September 26, 2006, 11:12:01 AM »
Marrying a royal (reigning one) means that the person is used to the spotlight and know what is expected of them since babyhood. For someone like William, he would need a strong partner. Even Princess Di wasn't media savory until late in her life. That is why they intermarry, to avoid misunderstanding of what the role entails. The pressure, the loss of privacy is as much a part of the job as the jewels and the gowns.  :-\

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« Reply #57 on: September 26, 2006, 11:24:14 AM »
But like someone says, does the paparazzi follow around Theodora? Does any country, for that matter, have paparazzi that stalks their royals as bad as they do in England? Kate, who has been in the public eye for quite some time, is becoming adjusted to royal life as well as anyone could. She goes to the same events, the press take pictures of her, etc. But whether he marries a royal or a commoner, when it is announced that he is engaged, a mudslide of paparazzi will come down on that girl, whoever she may be, like she has never seen before. Even the Queen was surprised by the media reaction to Diana and thought it would all just go away.

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Re: Love Lives of William and Harry
« Reply #58 on: September 26, 2006, 11:33:06 AM »


The Europeans are far worse than the British, actually.

But like someone says, does the paparazzi follow around Theodora? Does any country, for that matter, have paparazzi that stalks their royals as bad as they do in England? Kate, who has been in the public eye for quite some time, is becoming adjusted to royal life as well as anyone could. She goes to the same events, the press take pictures of her, etc. But whether he marries a royal or a commoner, when it is announced that he is engaged, a mudslide of paparazzi will come down on that girl, whoever she may be, like she has never seen before. Even the Queen was surprised by the media reaction to Diana and thought it would all just go away.
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And what did the first son marry?   :)

I find this offensive. Marie Chantal is lovely, elegant, beautiful and intelligent. Her money does not define who she is at all. She is a suitable Crown Princess for Greece, and I think she is great. She is not just a socialite and never has been a cheap socialite, or just a socialite.

Well Queen Silvia doesn't appeal to me as a Queen. I certainly don't respect or adore her. Queens must have some royal blood to be fully adequate Queens in my view.

I see.  That Miller girl is suitable to be a crown princess, yet the marvelous Queen Silvia simply isn't good enough to be a queen... in your view.   

Silvia is lovely, beautiful, and intelligent.  She is not just a socialite and never has been a cheap socialite, or just a socialite.   Princess Pavlos  grew up with extreme wealth.  Queen Silvia did not.    Neither of these two women have royal blood, yet you place a Miller above a Somerlath.   Marie Chantal's money may not define who she thinks she is, but perhaps when it comes down to this comparison with Silvia, perhaps it is Marie Chantal's money that defines who YOU think she is?   ???