Love Lives of William and Harry

[Leuchtenberg]

I hate to be the bearer of bad news:  getting married is not about choosing a spouse on the basis of one's blood line these days. I think you need to accept the fact that such marriages are few and far between and have been far and few between for more than 40 years now!

Being a duke's daughter does not make better qualified to be a queen ...

What about the daughter of a Marquess?  Do you suppose Harry likes older women?   Has he met Lady Victoria Hervey?   

[Kimberly]

 

[grandduchessella]

And one's bloodline is a guarantee. Queen Alexandra's sister Thyra (who would've been the Queen of Hanover except for that country siding with Austria in the war with Prussia) was the mother of an illegitimate child. She still made an admirable wife and mother and consort--she was frequently at the side of Emperor Franz Josef in Austria due to Sisi's absences.

Mette-Marit does not have a royal bloodline, but also had a child out of wedlock and seems to be doing fine as a wife, mother and consort too.   I don't think the bloodline is really what counts here.

Remember Caroline of Brunswick had a royal bloodline!

Sorry--my mis-typing. I meant to say that bloodline is NOT a guarantee. 

[Eric_Lowe]

Indeed...However without one is not either...for argument's sake.

[emeraldeyes1969]

Even Princess Di wasn't media savory until late in her life.

I'm sorry I had to laugh at this...I think you meant 'media-savvy'.   

I think the media always thought her to be rather savoury.   

Please don't be offended, you know we love you! 

I thnk I'm using too many smilies in this post! 

[Eric_Lowe]

Thanks for the comic relief...Boy we do need this from time to time...

[basilforever]

I hate to be the bearer of bad news:  getting married is not about choosing a spouse on the basis of one's blood line these days. I think you need to accept the fact that such marriages are few and far between and have been far and few between for more than 40 years now!

Being a duke's daughter does not make better qualified to be a queen ...

I won't join the debate on whether a commoner is suitable to wed a future monarch - these are different times, and there simply aren't that many princesses left to choose from.  Plus, royal marriages are no longer for political reasons, which was the principal objective of inter-royal marriages.

That said, it would add a certain level of grandeur not seen in generations if William married a foreign princess.  Especially were she the daughter of a reigning monarch.   The regal splendour of two sets of monarchs on either side of the alter would certainly be impressive - not to mention the processions, the jewelry, etc. 

Come to think of it - when was the last time a reigning British monarch or heir apparent married the son or daughter of a reigning king or queen (except for a reigning duke or prince).  It wasn't Phillip, Elizabeth, Mary, Alex, Albert, Adelaide, any of the Georges.  Anybody know?

That would be so impressive to have 4 royal parents next to the bride and groom. But Camilla would be there too. To me a child or grandchild of non-reigning monarchs or other royals would definitely be good enough. Any royal blood is still royal blood and Philip, Mary, Alix, Albert, Adelaide and the Queen consorts of the Georges all had that. Elizabeth had aristocratic and noble blood and some royal blood going back a number of generations, so that's good enough for me.

There aren't many Princesses with reigning monarchs as parents to choose from, but there are certainly A LOT of young ladies with royal blood to choose from. So many..... I could post a list if you don't believe me.

Yes I know such marriages are few and far between. That doesn't mean I should accept it or that it is right. Being a Duke's daughter does make one more qualified and more justified to be a Queen.

[basilforever]

However with Charles at the helm...Anything is possible.

I think they are all the same. divorced career girls, unwed mothers invloved in junkies...Maybe the next one will be a porn star, wait...Andrew nearly married one right ? Koo Stark ! 

They aren't all the same. A porn star - no that would be impossible. Get rid of the monarchy in that case. I don't think Andrew nearly married Koo Stark- that is all a bit before my time. Why does she have such a stupid name?

Still not anything is possible with Charles at the helm. But with his own moral history he might have a bit of a problem judging others.

[basilforever]

Indeed ! Thyra was Franz Josef 's favourite dance partner (they open the balls in Sisi's absence). She was a gentle woman who was sweet as well as charming. 

I wish there were more lovely pictures of Thyra, just as there are SO  many of her two sisters.

Has anyone ever been able to trace what happened to the child she gave away?

[basilforever]

And one's bloodline is a guarantee. Queen Alexandra's sister Thyra (who would've been the Queen of Hanover except for that country siding with Austria in the war with Prussia) was the mother of an illegitimate child. She still made an admirable wife and mother and consort--she was frequently at the side of Emperor Franz Josef in Austria due to Sisi's absences.

Mette-Marit does not have a royal bloodline, but also had a child out of wedlock and seems to be doing fine as a wife, mother and consort too.   I don't think the bloodline is really what counts here.

Remember Caroline of Brunswick had a royal bloodline!

There are still plenty of people who are not happy abot MM being the future Queen of Norway. But what can we do? Nothing as far as I can see.

It is not Queen Caroline's fault that her husband treated her so appallingly and was such a rude man sometimes.

[Taren]

However with Charles at the helm...Anything is possible.

I think they are all the same. divorced career girls, unwed mothers invloved in junkies...Maybe the next one will be a porn star, wait...Andrew nearly married one right ? Koo Stark ! 

They aren't all the same. A porn star - no that would be impossible. Get rid of the monarchy in that case. I don't think Andrew nearly married Koo Stark- that is all a bit before my time. Why does she have such a stupid name?

Still not anything is possible with Charles at the helm. But with his own moral history he might have a bit of a problem judging others.

Her real name is Kathleen. Koo is a nickname. I don't know if he ever planned on marrying her -but he did introduce her to his mother. Charles didn't introduce Camilla to the Queen until right around the wedding day, right? Not everyone her children are involved with are introduced to HM.

[basilforever]

But like someone says, does the paparazzi follow around Theodora? Does any country, for that matter, have paparazzi that stalks their royals as bad as they do in England? Kate, who has been in the public eye for quite some time, is becoming adjusted to royal life as well as anyone could. She goes to the same events, the press take pictures of her, etc. But whether he marries a royal or a commoner, when it is announced that he is engaged, a mudslide of paparazzi will come down on that girl, whoever she may be, like she has never seen before. Even the Queen was surprised by the media reaction to Diana and thought it would all just go away.

I don't think it will be quite the same for whoever William's fiance will be (I hope Princess Theodora) as it was for Diana. Diana was so amazingly beautiful and charismatic and so young, just a teenager.

[Taren]

And one's bloodline is a guarantee. Queen Alexandra's sister Thyra (who would've been the Queen of Hanover except for that country siding with Austria in the war with Prussia) was the mother of an illegitimate child. She still made an admirable wife and mother and consort--she was frequently at the side of Emperor Franz Josef in Austria due to Sisi's absences.

Mette-Marit does not have a royal bloodline, but also had a child out of wedlock and seems to be doing fine as a wife, mother and consort too.   I don't think the bloodline is really what counts here.

Remember Caroline of Brunswick had a royal bloodline!

There are still plenty of people who are not happy abot MM being the future Queen of Norway. But what can we do? Nothing as far as I can see.

It is not Queen Caroline's fault that her husband treated her so appallingly and was such a rude man sometimes.

There's also nothing we can do about who William and Harry marry -unless anyone here has any sway with them.

It was her fault that she didn't bathe, which was what made him treat her so bad! I'm no royal but I at least have my Saturday evening bath!   I know things were different back then, especially bathing habits and sanitation, but her odor was remarked on by everyone. On the other end, being royal didn't make George IV any less disliked by most of his family members.

[basilforever]

And what did the first son marry?   

I find this offensive. Marie Chantal is lovely, elegant, beautiful and intelligent. Her money does not define who she is at all. She is a suitable Crown Princess for Greece, and I think she is great. She is not just a socialite and never has been a cheap socialite, or just a socialite.

Well Queen Silvia doesn't appeal to me as a Queen. I certainly don't respect or adore her. Queens must have some royal blood to be fully adequate Queens in my view.

I see.  That Miller girl is suitable to be a crown princess, yet the marvelous Queen Silvia simply isn't good enough to be a queen... in your view.   

Silvia is lovely, beautiful, and intelligent.  She is not just a socialite and never has been a cheap socialite, or just a socialite.   Princess Pavlos  grew up with extreme wealth.  Queen Silvia did not.    Neither of these two women have royal blood, yet you place a Miller above a Somerlath.   Marie Chantal's money may not define who she thinks she is, but perhaps when it comes down to this comparison with Silvia, perhaps it is Marie Chantal's money that defines who YOU think she is?   

Can you not write your whole reply in bold, it is not necessary.

I am not comparing MC to Silvia at all. I don't care to do that.

It is ALL a matter of personal opinion and taste. I like MC, she appeals to me, Silvia does not. That's just the way it is. I am not wanting or trying to compare them.

HRH Crown Princess Pavlos (Marie-Chantal) of Greece, is not ''that Miller girl''. She has done nothing to deserve such disrespect. She is lovely.

Calling Q Silvia ''marvellous'' is your opinon, it is not a fact. The same goes with calling her ''lovely, beautiful and intelligent''. She appears vain to me and her looks are NOT beautiful, to my taste. And what has she done that is so intelligent? She is just a commoner in a Queen's jewels really.

I place MC above Silvia, simply because she APPEALS to me more. MC's money does not define who I think she is, I don't even care about it. My feelings towards MC and Silvia are just personal opinon/taste about who appeals to me more, and has nothing to do with monetary background.

[basilforever]

I hate to be the bearer of bad news:  getting married is not about choosing a spouse on the basis of one's blood line these days. I think you need to accept the fact that such marriages are few and far between and have been far and few between for more than 40 years now!

Being a duke's daughter does not make better qualified to be a queen ...

What about the daughter of a Marquess?  Do you suppose Harry likes older women?   Has he met Lady Victoria Hervey?   

I think being a daughter of a Marquess would be good enough for Harry. Most of them have some royal blood.