Love Lives of William and Harry

[basilforever]

It is unlikely that Wills or Harry will marry royalty.  They do not mix with other European royals - and in fact, have spent far more time on vacation visiting Africa and other places.  They have not attended any European royal events - and probably won't for some time.  Princess Madeleine has been living in the USA with her boyfriend - it is expected that she will marry a Swede, and remain in Sweden.  Lady Ella is seriously involved with an Indian she at at Brown university.  Earlier this year, she and Ateesh spent several months traveling the world together. 

Unless there is a serious change in their relationship, I now expect Catherine Elizabeth Middleton to become HRH Princess William of Wales (unless the queen gives Wills a ducal title on his wedding day.)
Harry has been dating Zimbawe-born Chelsy Davy, but this relationship is not going to lead toward marriage.  Chelsy recently stated that she had no plans to move to the UK - as she hated the weather. 

William and Harry know Theodora of course, as a relative, but they probably have little contact with her. She went to university in the USA, where she studied theatre. 

Well...For starters both Nancy Leeds and Nicky Nilton are rich and attractive. I think Nicky is much more respectable than her attention grabbing sister Paris (who might still marry a Greek, the cute Stravos boy). As a second or third son Prince Nicholas of Greece may be allowed to bag an heiress (like her grand uncle Christopher, great grand uncle Viggo of Denmark and grand uncle George of Greece). I agree that Crown Princess Victoria is the best consort for handsome Nicholas, but she already had a boyfriend.

Nicky Hilton isn't attractive in my view. She is dirty and associated with that stick insect bleached haired prostiture of a sister. So no she is NOT good enough to marry any royalty. She is not respectable. Any marriage that Paris makes is likely to last about a month. Stavros isn't royal even if he is very rich. Prince Nicholas as second son should marry Princess Victoria. They would be a good couple. He would be a good match for her. His parents wouldn't allow him to marry a cheap socialite like that. I mean his parents may not be reigning but his aunt is the Queen of Denmark, his aunt and uncle the Queen and King of Spain. Hopefully Victoria will dump her unsuitable boyfriend very soon. We must have standards, or royalty will just turn into a bunch of commoners. God forbid.

But this thread is meant to be about who Harry and William should marry.

I think any woman with some noble or royal blood, at least a Lady would be good enough for Harry.
I think William should marry Princess Theodora, Princess Madeleine or Lady Gabriella Windsor. (They are not too closely related!)
Hopefully my fantasies will come true.

It says a lot about how serious I am about this because I am a woman just a couple of years younger than Harry and four years younger than William, and I would not want either of them to marry me, because I want them to marry royalty!

I think they know Theodora more as a friend than a relative. What would be their relation? It would be very distant. Their closest common ancestor I think would be George I of Greece. They are not very related at all. The Queen is Theodora's godmother, The King of Greece is William's godfather, so they have close connections. Hopefully William and Theodora will meet soon again and get to know each other, fall in love and marry. It is not implausable.

She is lovely and most suitable.


Until Kate Middleton (or some other common girl) has become married to William, I will not stop hoping that he will mary Royalty, or at least an aristocratic or noble lady.

[basilforever]

How did Paris and Nicky Hilton get involved in any of this? Do either of them even know William and Harry? I remember seeing a program awhile ago about who some of the likely candidates are, and Richard Branson's daughter, Holly, was mentioned. According to Branson, who knew Diana, the two actually do know each other and think the idea of being matched up is pretty funny.

Of course the ideal wife for either prince is a fellow royal. Princess Madeleine is very lovely. I've never seen Theodora of Greece. Gabriella Windsor, I'd have to say no, if only because that would make her mother too happy. Plus there are enough inbreeding jokes about the royals without William marrying his third cousin once removed. Charlotte Casiraghi is very attractive, but she's also Catholic, right?

Odds are that they won't marry royals though. I just hope that whomever they marry is someone that they, their family, and the country can agree on. Hopefully, their choices won't be divorcees, or have illigetimate children, or be remotely connected to dictators. Someone like Diana would be preferable -only older, more experience in dealing with royal life, and oh yeah, they should actually love them.

William and Lady Gabriella are not too closely related for marriage. Their would be no ill-effects from it. She is so beautiful and it would be very suitable. These royal inbreeding jokes are so annoying, the British royal family is not interbred, at least not at all anymore.

[basilforever]

Nicky Hilton isn't attractive in my view. She is dirty and associated with that stick insect bleached haired prostiture of a sister. So no she is NOT good enough to marry any royalty. She is not respectable. Any marriage that Paris makes is likely to last about a month. Stavros isn't royal even if he is very rich. Prince Nicholas as second son should marry Princess Victoria. They would be a good couple. He would be a good match for her. His parents wouldn't allow him to marry a cheap socialite like that. I mean his parents may not be reigning but his aunt is the Queen of Denmark, his aunt and uncle the Queen and King of Spain. Hopefully Victoria will dump her unsuitable boyfriend very soon. We must have standards, or royalty will just turn into a bunch of commoners. God forbid.

And what did the first son marry?   

I find this offensive. Marie Chantal is lovely, elegant, beautiful and intelligent. Her money does not define who she is at all. She is a suitable Crown Princess for Greece, and I think she is great. She is not just a socialite and never has been a cheap socialite, or just a socialite.

[basilforever]

The days of royal marriages are long gone,and have been since the 1960s --- in fact, since World war II, there have been only 5 royal marriages where the bride and groom come from reigning royal families  - Elizabeth and Philip;  Jean and Josepehine Charlotte;  Juan Carlos and Sophie; Anne Marie and Constantine and Margaretha Lux and Nicholas Liechtenstein --
You will find that inter-royal marriage rarely now happens.  Moreover, neither Hilton sister is dating royalty.  For another,  Victoria has been involved with Daniel for several years, and Nicholas has been dating Tatiania Blatnik for several years as well.  They are very much an item.

Well...For starters both Nancy Leeds and Nicky Nilton are rich and attractive. I think Nicky is much more respectable than her attention grabbing sister Paris (who might still marry a Greek, the cute Stravos boy). As a second or third son Prince Nicholas of Greece may be allowed to bag an heiress (like her grand uncle Christopher, great grand uncle Viggo of Denmark and grand uncle George of Greece). I agree that Crown Princess Victoria is the best consort for handsome Nicholas, but she already had a boyfriend.

Nicky Hilton isn't attractive in my view. She is dirty and associated with that stick insect bleached haired prostiture of a sister. So no she is NOT good enough to marry any royalty. She is not respectable. Any marriage that Paris makes is likely to last about a month. Stavros isn't royal even if he is very rich. Prince Nicholas as second son should marry Princess Victoria. They would be a good couple. He would be a good match for her. His parents wouldn't allow him to marry a cheap socialite like that. I mean his parents may not be reigning but his aunt is the Queen of Denmark, his aunt and uncle the Queen and King of Spain. Hopefully Victoria will dump her unsuitable boyfriend very soon. We must have standards, or royalty will just turn into a bunch of commoners. God forbid.

But this thread is meant to be about who Harry and William should marry.

I think any woman with some noble or royal blood, at least a Lady would be good enough for Harry.
I think William should marry Princess Theodora, Princess Madeleine or Lady Gabriella Windsor. (They are not too closely related!)
Hopefully my fantasies will come true.

It says a lot about how serious I am about this because I am a woman just a couple of years younger than Harry and four years younger than William, and I would not want either of them to marry me, because I want them to marry royalty!

For me personally, I don't care if a person in a potential royal match comes from a reigning royal family or not. Royal blood is royal blood, whether the government recognises it or not. The royal family of Greece are still royal, even if they are sadly not reigning at the moment. Also, before someone is actually married to their boyfriend/girlfriend (e.g. Nicholas/Tatiana, Victoria/Daniel) I won't and can't stop matching them up with however appeals to whatever royal fantasies I may be having. Besides, it does no harm. It's not like I actually know any of them.

[basilforever]

Good grief- it is so simple- they should marry whomever they happen to be in love with.
 Marlene is so right, that days of royal "arranged" marriages is long over.
 This is yet another "having fun" topic that escaped !!

No they should not marry whomever they happen to be in love with. They are in an extremely important position and have responsibilities that go beyond satisfying whatever temporary lust or infatuation they might be in. That is why they are royal and not the plumber next door. Being in love is not enough, suitability is always a concern.

The days of arranged royal marriages is over. The days of royal marriages is not necessarily over at all. I am so not advocating an ''arranged'' marriage. But it would be nice and satisfying if someone like William and Harry were to marry someone with some kind of title, and royal or at least noble ancestors, because they were in love with them, not just because they are suitable.

[basilforever]

Both William and and Harry should marry girls named Mary so that Britain can once and again have a King William and Queen Mary. As for Harry, he too should marry a girl named Mary because it has been a very long time since Britain has had a Prince Harry and a Princess Mary. Would it not just be very merry it we had two Marys?

No that would be boring. There are already too many Marys. And if William did have a Queen Mary it wouldn't be the same as the other William and Mary because they were BOTH monarchs. Neither was a consort. I'm a bit sick of the name Mary.

[basilforever]

I really think they aught to marry royalty. Inject a bit of glamour in to the family and prestige!! They are royalty, they are well bred, and should marry girls with an impressive lineage who understand full well how royalty should behave!! It almost makes a mockery of it if they marry girls that are to common.  As Prince Carl was advised when he accepted the Norwegian throne, they need to get up on a pedestal and remain their !!!! 

Just my thoughts....

I couldn't agree more!

I would like William to marry a descendent of Queen Victoria, born in the 1980s of course. There is definitely A LOT of female descendents of QV born in the 1980s to choose from. I have compiled a list.

[basilforever]

I agree with Taren's post of Sept 23; I coudn't have said it better.

Yeah, except for the whole third cousins mistake I'm sure 

Really, the best we can hope for is that they're happy and that their marriages don't end in divorce. They're not stupid -they won't choose porn stars.

That is the least we can hope for. That they are happy and don't get divorced. The BEST we can hope for is that, as well as that they marry someone with all the right qualities (beauty being important as well as intelligence, class, etc.), and someone who has some prestige, Majesty and royal blood.

[Prince_Lieven]

I think this thread would 'sound' a lot less heated if people starting using the phrase 'in my opinion . . .' 

[jehan]

I really think they aught to marry royalty. Inject a bit of glamour in to the family and prestige!! They are royalty, they are well bred, and should marry girls with an impressive lineage who understand full well how royalty should behave!! It almost makes a mockery of it if they marry girls that are to common.  As Prince Carl was advised when he accepted the Norwegian throne, they need to get up on a pedestal and remain their !!!! 

Just my thoughts....

Where is the guarantee that royalty behaves any better than anyone else? What about Princess Stephanie or  Ernst of Hanover?  Manners and breeding can come from any class (or not!)- they come from inside a person, not from their ancestors.  I don't see anything "common" in Kate Middleton- she's smart, educated. pretty, and seem to have a good relationship with William.  And they started out as friends, which is a great "plus" for any marriage.  I have no idea if they will marry or not, but if they do, I'm sure they have the basis for a successful partnership. 

[Taren]

I really think they aught to marry royalty. Inject a bit of glamour in to the family and prestige!! They are royalty, they are well bred, and should marry girls with an impressive lineage who understand full well how royalty should behave!! It almost makes a mockery of it if they marry girls that are to common.  As Prince Carl was advised when he accepted the Norwegian throne, they need to get up on a pedestal and remain their !!!! 

Just my thoughts....

Where is the guarantee that royalty behaves any better than anyone else? What about Princess Stephanie or  Ernst of Hanover?  Manners and breeding can come from any class (or not!)- they come from inside a person, not from their ancestors.  I don't see anything "common" in Kate Middleton- she's smart, educated. pretty, and seem to have a good relationship with William.  And they started out as friends, which is a great "plus" for any marriage.  I have no idea if they will marry or not, but if they do, I'm sure they have the basis for a successful partnership. 

I agree. Not only did they start out friends, but have been together for years now. If they do marry, I believe it will be the longest courtship a future Prince of Wales will have had with his future spouse (not counting Charles and Camilla's mostly extra-marital courtship of course). Whoever William and Harry marry, they will at least be accorded the luxury of time and not a rushed courtship and marriage.

[grandduchessella]

I agree. It would be nice if maybe they were slightly older but it's a definite plus that they've been together a few years now and for the msot part been left alone and not stalked like when Diana first took up with Charles.

[basilforever]

I really think they aught to marry royalty. Inject a bit of glamour in to the family and prestige!! They are royalty, they are well bred, and should marry girls with an impressive lineage who understand full well how royalty should behave!! It almost makes a mockery of it if they marry girls that are to common.  As Prince Carl was advised when he accepted the Norwegian throne, they need to get up on a pedestal and remain their !!!! 

Just my thoughts....

Where is the guarantee that royalty behaves any better than anyone else? What about Princess Stephanie or  Ernst of Hanover?  Manners and breeding can come from any class (or not!)- they come from inside a person, not from their ancestors.  I don't see anything "common" in Kate Middleton- she's smart, educated. pretty, and seem to have a good relationship with William.  And they started out as friends, which is a great "plus" for any marriage.  I have no idea if they will marry or not, but if they do, I'm sure they have the basis for a successful partnership. 

Well royalty don't necessarily always behave wonderfully, but they are generally thought of to be better somehow, hence they are 'royalty'. A person does come from their ancestors, we all do. Kate is a commoner. She has no title, royal blood, or any real prestige. She isn't good enough in my opinion. I see no reason to assume they will get married. We don't really know what their relationship is like - perhaps they are more great friends than madly in love? We can't know, unless they tell us.

[basilforever]

I really think they aught to marry royalty. Inject a bit of glamour in to the family and prestige!! They are royalty, they are well bred, and should marry girls with an impressive lineage who understand full well how royalty should behave!! It almost makes a mockery of it if they marry girls that are to common.  As Prince Carl was advised when he accepted the Norwegian throne, they need to get up on a pedestal and remain their !!!! 

Just my thoughts....

Where is the guarantee that royalty behaves any better than anyone else? What about Princess Stephanie or  Ernst of Hanover?  Manners and breeding can come from any class (or not!)- they come from inside a person, not from their ancestors.  I don't see anything "common" in Kate Middleton- she's smart, educated. pretty, and seem to have a good relationship with William.  And they started out as friends, which is a great "plus" for any marriage.  I have no idea if they will marry or not, but if they do, I'm sure they have the basis for a successful partnership. 

I agree. Not only did they start out friends, but have been together for years now. If they do marry, I believe it will be the longest courtship a future Prince of Wales will have had with his future spouse (not counting Charles and Camilla's mostly extra-marital courtship of course). Whoever William and Harry marry, they will at least be accorded the luxury of time and not a rushed courtship and marriage.

Charles and Camilla's extra-marital relations would not be called a courtship. Sordid affair would be the more correct term. But I suppose it is all resolved now.

[basilforever]

I agree. It would be nice if maybe they were slightly older but it's a definite plus that they've been together a few years now and for the msot part been left alone and not stalked like when Diana first took up with Charles.

But they might not get married at all! William may marry a Princess yet!