Famous Habsburgs in movies/plays/cartoons

[Imperial_Grounds]

I'm sure you'll like it

[IrinaAlexandrovna]

Ofcourse i will i'm waiting for it for so long i watch everyday couple of time the trailer and can't wait 

[Eric_Lowe]

Me too...Waiting is very frustrating.

[Princess of Cupertino]

I searched on this forum and didn't find many postings. So I'm starting a new thread.

I've just watched the first half of this show. I have to say even though Rudolf was idealized, the show is much better quality than I'd thought (comparing to shows like the Tudors). It captured rather accurately the dynamics between different characters. Empress Elisabeth (Sisi) was the best I've seen - from the looks to the performance.

Max von Thun is more charismatic than the real Rudolf (judging from his portraits). But they didn't reveal enough of his dark side. It's interesting that he's acutally the great-great-nephew of Sophie Chotek.

Emperor FJ was a bit too old and overweight. But he came off sympathetic.

Mary Vestera as always was protrayed positively, while I think she was a bit crazy in real life.

Has anyone else seen the show? I'd like to hear your opinion.

[Madame-Sisi]

I got it on DVD.. bought it in 2007..

And it was a nice one to watch..and they made sisi verry realistic..not the romantic"Sissi" but really a woman in a own dream world! nice done!
And the thing they should do was made Stephanie blond..cause in real life she was blond and in this serie she had brown hair.. that wasn't a match!
I also love the part when Rudolf falls in love with the woman who works at her daddy's store..so romantic.. to bad she died..

And i also agree with you FJ was a bit 2 overweight...in Real life franz was not that "Big"

on the other hand the Dresses were ugly..
they not very good detailed!
Sometimes it looked like the dresses were made in a hurry and that made it ugly.. like really cheap i mean..

[Imperial_Grounds]

Well it is good, the only movie that also recreates Rudolf's funeral(part of it), and shows Mary's grave.

[aor]

No, there also is the funeral scene in the 50's movie. This movie shows the eerie scene of the burning sticks and the sight of the Empress and the Crown Princess in the windows of the Hofburg as the casket passes as the first scenes of this movie. The scene in the 2006 TV movie, where the head of the Household bangs on the door to have the funeral procession admitted, is almost word by word taken from the older movie. It also shows the family attending the funeral and FJ breaking down at his son's coffin. Then it goes onto showing the Elder Baroness Vetsera at her daughter's grave and the arrival of the Empress. Both women talk and the Baroness asks the Empress to be allowed to provide a proper grave for her child. Then the movie goes into the 'story' of Rudolphs 'letzte' liebe....... The final scene of the movie shows the new grave and the flowers the Empress left............

[IrinaAlexandrovna]

Ofcourse it's great when Victoria Puchini is there...She is my favourite from the italian serial "The daughter of Eliza" and she played in the first part "Eliza" i'm using the soudntrack in the site of Sisi

[Imperial_Grounds]

No, there also is the funeral scene in the 50's movie. This movie shows the eerie scene of the burning sticks and the sight of the Empress and the Crown Princess in the windows of the Hofburg as the casket passes as the first scenes of this movie. The scene in the 2006 TV movie, where the head of the Household bangs on the door to have the funeral procession admitted, is almost word by word taken from the older movie. It also shows the family attending the funeral and FJ breaking down at his son's coffin. Then it goes onto showing the Elder Baroness Vetsera at her daughter's grave and the arrival of the Empress. Both women talk and the Baroness asks the Empress to be allowed to provide a proper grave for her child. Then the movie goes into the 'story' of Rudolphs 'letzte' liebe....... The final scene of the movie shows the new grave and the flowers the Empress left............

Now I really do wanna see this. Sounds so good.

Maybe I'm able to find it on Ebay, as I did with Mayerling(Boyer-version), preferable with and without subtitles

[Eric_Lowe]

Yes. I would love to as well.

[Imperial_Grounds]

Anyone her heard about "Sissi, Imperatrice De La Solitude"?

This should be a documentary about Empress Elisabeth, the first one I've heard about.

Cover:

[Eric_Lowe]

I have it on tape in English...

[Princess of Cupertino]

Yes the Jewish girl romance was very touching, however very very unlikely. Rudolf couldn't have been ahead of his time.

I'm wondering about the ritual of his funeral, where the prieast asked "Who is it". Is that real (Catholic?) or theatrical?

thanks.

[Greenowl]

I have not seen the film "The Crown Prince". However, the incident with the Jewish girl is apparently true, as it is mentioned in Brigitte Hamann's biography "Kronprinz Rudolf" on page 151. It took place in Prague when Rudolf was stationed there in approx 1878 and Rudolf was so upset and depressed when the girl died that he had to be treated by the "Nervenarzt" Dr. Moritz Benedikt, whose daughter later wrote about the incident.

The funeral ritual is also true....before the remains of any of the Habsburgs were admitted to the crypt the monks asked "who wishes to be admitted?". On hearing the answer "The Emperor of Austria" they would respond "We know him not". It was only when the answer was " XX (i.e. the first name of the deceased), a poor sinner" that the door was opened and the coffin could be brought into the crypt. However, it is said that the ritual had fallen into disuse in the 19th. century and was only revived for the funeral of Empress Zita.

Cheers,
GREENOWL

[Princess of Cupertino]

Thank you greenowl! I'd love to read the BH book but I can't find it in English.

It seems the show is rather authentic on details. I don't think Max von Thun quite captured the complexity of Rudolf's emotions but he's extremely charasmatic, which I believe the Crown Prince was.