Author Topic: Famous Habsburgs in movies/plays/cartoons  (Read 287196 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline MademoiselleAndrea

  • Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 536
  • Take me as you find me, all my fears and failures.
    • View Profile
    • Past A La Mode: A Presentation and Celebration of Historical Fashion
Re: Famous Habsburgs in movies/plays/cartoons
« Reply #615 on: December 23, 2009, 04:47:22 PM »
A few pictures of Sissi smiling remind me of Renee Zelweger, (spelled wrong, I'm sure.) She might make a good Sissi.
Could anyone post some pictures of Sissi from the trilogy as well as those other films? I'd like to see some, and also please label them so i know the names of the films when i look on netflix.  :)
I'd insert the pic of Sissi that looks like Renee, but i don't know how, if someone could tell me how, i'd appreciate it.
When I stand before God at the end of my life, I would hope that I would not have a single bit of talent left, and could say, "I used everything You gave me". --Erma Bombeck

Rani

  • Guest
Re: Famous Habsburgs in movies/plays/cartoons
« Reply #616 on: December 24, 2009, 06:13:54 AM »
There was a movie in the 90´from Christoph Böll, Heinrich Bölls nephew: Sisi und der Kaiserkuss

Sisi was played by Vanessa Wagner. There is no DVD in Germany or Austria. This film was a bombastic flop in Germany.






I would like to see it. The critics said that it was historical, satiric and frivolous. Böll wanted a new Sisi, bt Romys Sissi wins again. What a bummer!


« Last Edit: December 24, 2009, 06:16:23 AM by Rani »

Rani

  • Guest
Re: Famous Habsburgs in movies/plays/cartoons
« Reply #617 on: December 24, 2009, 06:29:05 AM »
http://www.imdb.de/character/ch0030107/


Marguerite Jamois in "Le secret de Mayerling" 1949



Gabrielle Dorziat in "Mayerling" 1936




« Last Edit: December 24, 2009, 06:38:22 AM by Rani »

Rani

  • Guest
Re: Famous Habsburgs in movies/plays/cartoons
« Reply #618 on: December 24, 2009, 06:41:08 AM »
Lil Dagover in "Elisabeth von Österreich" 1931



More on http://forum.index.hu/Article/jumpTree?a=90033857&t=9118767


In my opinion Sandra Ceccarelli looks similiar to Sisi

« Last Edit: December 24, 2009, 06:51:50 AM by Rani »

Offline Eric_Lowe

  • Velikye Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 16997
  • I love YaBB 1G - SP1!
    • View Profile
Re: Famous Habsburgs in movies/plays/cartoons
« Reply #619 on: December 24, 2009, 10:47:26 AM »
The early Mayerling Sisi looked like Dragula's mother...I like Ava Gardner's version. At least a celebrated beauty playing another faded beauty.

Offline Imperial_Grounds

  • Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 579
  • Your Memory Keeps Me Alive
    • View Profile
Re: Famous Habsburgs in movies/plays/cartoons
« Reply #620 on: December 25, 2009, 01:13:17 PM »
I'd love to see the movie with Lili Dagover, she was the first actress to play the role twice - and she was good in 'Kronprinz Rudolfs Letzte Liebe'.

Did anyone check the movies I uploaded? I'd like to get some more thoughts on it:p
Learn To Live With My Darker Side

Rani

  • Guest
Re: Famous Habsburgs in movies/plays/cartoons
« Reply #621 on: December 25, 2009, 07:03:18 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGwTpXoyjIw

Scene from "Erzsebet Kiralyne" with Karady Katalin


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7Ak1XiQ_u0

Scene from "Das Schicksal derer von Habsburg" with Erna Morena
« Last Edit: December 25, 2009, 07:09:48 PM by Rani »

Offline MarieCharlotte

  • Velikye Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 1335
  • Sophie Charlotte (1847-1897)
    • View Profile
Re: Famous Habsburgs in movies/plays/cartoons
« Reply #622 on: December 26, 2009, 04:51:04 AM »
And unfortunately Maximilian's death DID NOT bring Sophie and Elisabeth any closer together.

I think Charlotte was the only character I thought convincing.

Well, after Sophie's death, Elisabeth was shown as a sad, powerless young woman who was lying in bed and didn't want to have contact to her husband and child. Maybe this was enough of a depression for the director.

I didn't like the performance of Charlotte. She was introduced as a well-educated girl who was in love with Max. I missed a scene in which Sophie's preference for Charlotte was shown. Yes, and her madness ... In my opinion sentences like "Have you heard Max' voice? I though he was back." weren't very convincing.
Ich aber breite trauernd aus
die weiten weissen Schwingen,
Und kehr' ins Feenreich nach Haus -
Nichts soll mich wieder bringen.


Elisabeth

Offline Imperial_Grounds

  • Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 579
  • Your Memory Keeps Me Alive
    • View Profile
Re: Famous Habsburgs in movies/plays/cartoons
« Reply #623 on: December 26, 2009, 07:49:28 AM »
Those scenes of the Hungarian film are fascinating, would love to see the whole movie. I was checking with my Hungarian friend but his subtitles for the Hungarian movie are not finished yet, so I can't upload. You might think I am a bore, but did someone actually took the time to download those I uploaded, am especially curious for some  thoughts on the French movies. Also I have some other good news: I have found Juarez(1939), with Bette Davis as Empress Carlotta. It has French subtitles, but who cares. Always wanted to see that movie. Will get it uploaded in a torrent too.
Learn To Live With My Darker Side

Offline historylover

  • Boyar
  • **
  • Posts: 170
  • I love YaBB 1G - SP1!
    • View Profile
    • Writer and Editor
Re: Famous Habsburgs in movies/plays/cartoons
« Reply #624 on: December 27, 2009, 05:01:13 AM »
I must admit to quite liking Sisi with Romy Schneider.  It's very sweet and not very historically accurate, I agree, but
I think that it's a beautiful series to watch.

Offline Eric_Lowe

  • Velikye Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 16997
  • I love YaBB 1G - SP1!
    • View Profile
Re: Famous Habsburgs in movies/plays/cartoons
« Reply #625 on: December 27, 2009, 11:38:10 AM »
She was Sisi idealized. The Visconti film on Ludwig II was more realistic on the real Sisi.

Offline Imperial_Grounds

  • Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 579
  • Your Memory Keeps Me Alive
    • View Profile
Re: Famous Habsburgs in movies/plays/cartoons
« Reply #626 on: December 27, 2009, 12:30:42 PM »
Romy was great as Sisi, she did have the looks but in "Sissi' everything was made out to be like a fairytale, while in Visconti's "Ludwig" we get to see her as the real Elisabeth. Romy herself said that it was good to show the true Empress instead of the sugar-roles the Sissi-series got her into.

Has anyone ever seen "katia" with her? It's about the love affair of Alexander II with Princess Dolgorukova, with Romy in the role of Catharina 'Katia', intend to buy it but the movie is in French so I am first taking classes to get the language well. Anyway, enaugh about this movie else we'll get off topic here.
Learn To Live With My Darker Side

Offline Eric_Lowe

  • Velikye Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 16997
  • I love YaBB 1G - SP1!
    • View Profile
Re: Famous Habsburgs in movies/plays/cartoons
« Reply #627 on: December 27, 2009, 01:55:37 PM »
No information on "Katia". Would love more on that movie.

Indeed. I like the Visconti portrayal too. Romy played Sisi with her frustration and insecurites. More real. Sad that people still love the fairy tale that never REALLY was...

Offline Yelena Aleksandrovna

  • Velikye Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 3730
    • View Profile
    • *Glitter Of The Past*
Re: Famous Habsburgs in movies/plays/cartoons
« Reply #628 on: December 29, 2009, 01:18:51 PM »
Looking at the photos the majority of the actresses that have played Sissi's role on the different
movies don't look like real Sissi neither a little bit :'-(

Offline Eric_Lowe

  • Velikye Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 16997
  • I love YaBB 1G - SP1!
    • View Profile
Re: Famous Habsburgs in movies/plays/cartoons
« Reply #629 on: December 29, 2009, 02:13:17 PM »
Except maybe Romy. Sisi was avery complex role to play...if one wants to be althentic...