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jacqueline

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Re: Restitution?
« Reply #75 on: September 29, 2006, 02:58:36 PM »
What is going on here? I was never rude. I was being helpful to someone by speaking in their native lanuage but then I was unnecessarily attacked because I didn’t know your unwritten “rules”.  However, I am not the one who should apologize.  There is a group here that thinks it is okay to directly attack  and provoke others but it is completely rude and uncouth. I didn't start this chum-frenzie - I only responed to nasty provocation. The manner and tone of your respones to me are far worse than anything I said in response.  I no longer want to participate in the ugliness that seems to fester here.

Congratulations to those that wanted to make me leave this forum.

Goodbye.

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« Reply #76 on: September 29, 2006, 04:35:54 PM »
The will to prohibit the use of another language bitterly points out to me what my family lived it is not very a long time.

Remember :The Nazis burned books on the public place because they were not written by a person of the good race.

Then, the Nazis made carried a star on the chest with the people who were not good race.

Then, there were the camps of work and the massacre of million civil.

The English language dominates over the Web, in the businesses, the scientific field, etc. If attention is not paid, it will make disparaitre all the other languages within 50 years.

Will I have to carry a star because I express myself in another language that English?

If it is your goal, I will defend my language and my cukture as a long time as you will leave me the right to live.

Sorry if I am rude or impolite.

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« Reply #77 on: October 07, 2006, 01:46:12 PM »
What is going on here? I was never rude. I was being helpful to someone by speaking in their native lanuage but then I was unnecessarily attacked because I didn’t know your unwritten “rules”.  However, I am not the one who should apologize.  There is a group here that thinks it is okay to directly attack  and provoke others but it is completely rude and uncouth. I didn't start this chum-frenzie - I only responed to nasty provocation. The manner and tone of your respones to me are far worse than anything I said in response.  I no longer want to participate in the ugliness that seems to fester here.

Congratulations to those that wanted to make me leave this forum.

Goodbye.

There is nothing wrong with posting to someone in their native language as long as you also translate in to English so other posters may follow the discussion.  This is fair and polite.

If you want to address someone privately it need to be done in a PM.  We ahve all been warned about carrying on private conversations in the public area of the forum.

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Vassili_Vorontsoff

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« Reply #78 on: October 10, 2006, 04:34:53 AM »
I have not been on the website from a long time because of my studies...and I'm shocked to see what is said here...

Jacqueline,do not leave the website please!Your information to my point of view are interesting and those who would be too much intelligent to read what is writen there do not need to read russia  information on the website!I would like to point out the fact that everybod do not have all their time to read all things on newspaper about Russia ,as for my case I'm not reprocessed and it's quite confortable to read it there ...

The interest of a forum is not to judge the information of the others!!!

Dear James h,the subject is closed about translations problems ,vladimir has the seam problem and as far as I can see it has been forgotten...Thise attitud are too childish for a forum!If your on edges please do not go on the forum!
Vassili
I think it is not time any more to polemize,why not speaking again about restitution with those who are really interested by the problem!

Vassili_Vorontsoff

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« Reply #79 on: October 10, 2006, 04:41:47 AM »
What is going on here? I was never rude. I was being helpful to someone by speaking in their native lanuage but then I was unnecessarily attacked because I didn’t know your unwritten “rules”.  However, I am not the one who should apologize.  There is a group here that thinks it is okay to directly attack  and provoke others but it is completely rude and uncouth. I didn't start this chum-frenzie - I only responed to nasty provocation. The manner and tone of your respones to me are far worse than anything I said in response.  I no longer want to participate in the ugliness that seems to fester here.

Congratulations to those that wanted to make me leave this forum.

Goodbye.
pLEASE,I was the first to speak into french and  have always pologize,I'm sorry!And according to my memory gretest part of my sentences have been resumed!
Please,once more James h,post again your interesting post on restitution whereas on the rules of the wbsite....

Vassili

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« Reply #80 on: October 10, 2006, 10:39:09 AM »
Then, if there are many free translators on the web... May I ask why you do not use one?.. My mother told me once that good manners were not only eating with your mouth closed and your elbows off the table.. It is also  making the other people feel the most comfortable possible, also as a sign of respect to them...

I hope one day you will find a meanning to this advise..
Best Regards,

Arturo Vega-Llausás

Our two Francophone might find the online  computer translators to be as lacking as I find them. One would have to rewrite every sentence to correct the errors of the computer translator. As it is, the French language can communicate certain thoughts, perceptions and emotions much more effectively than English. Had your mother been truly concerned with good manners, you should have been taught to speak French as a child.

If you speak Castilliano how hard can it be to read French?

David

David,
I was not speaking for myself. I have no trouble reading French. but as you may infer I am not the only person who enters  this forum and it would be really foollish of me (Not to talk about selfish) to think that everybody else would have no trouble reading it either...some of us are not as gifted as others regarding foreign lenguages....

Best Regards,

Arturo

I am quite surprised that this discussion about language has become so bitter. As I have written before, I have no trouble if a post is written in French or Spanish or Russian or anyone of a half-dozen other major European languages. I strongly believe that all of those who so bitterly oppose the use of French by our members are misguided and reactionary. Furthermore, I could care less if some uneducated people cannot read the post as ignorance should have negative concequeces to encourage learning.

J'espère que chaque personne retourne participer dans cette discussion. L'ignorance et l'intolérance de peu de gens ne doivent pas détruire la jouissance de tout le monde.

David

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« Reply #81 on: October 11, 2006, 12:08:45 AM »
This is a warning from your Moderator.

Anyone who has issues about how they are treated here may PM me, the other Moderators, or the FA or GA.

This thread is not to be used for any purpose other than discussion of the topic, period, end of story. Any further OT posts will be removed along with all the other OT posts.

Vassili_Vorontsoff

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« Reply #82 on: October 14, 2006, 08:43:37 AM »
http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2006/10/ebcf0091-3b24-437a-af91-04b42dc81aa1.html

This article developped the actual "passion" for the monarchist cause in Russia.


I hope some would write again under this subject...
Vassili

Robert_Hall

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« Reply #83 on: October 14, 2006, 09:06:02 AM »
Vassili, I appreciate your interest in this subject. It is much like mine. However, the article you cite, although interesting, is from RadioFreeEurope. Hardly the most objective news source is it?

Vassili_Vorontsoff

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« Reply #84 on: October 15, 2006, 04:23:47 PM »
Dear Robert,

I appreciate too that some are always interested in this subject...The source of my article is probably biased- I can not take sides with such a vision- but ,on the other hand there is no plenty of articles on the net on this subject csqtly,I post what I can find in order to show that this subject is actual and that it deserve to develope it further...

Please if you have informations to share ,do not hesitate...(new informations lack)

Vassili

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« Reply #85 on: December 12, 2006, 12:19:01 AM »
I just removed two more off topic posts which were put here in spite of my warnings to not put up any more off topic posts. There will be no further warnings.

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« Reply #86 on: September 01, 2010, 03:56:11 PM »
This is an interesting topic. I once spoke to a person in Russia who DID manage to reclaim land based on pre-revolutionary land-ownership documents. This was, however, in the Caucasus, and I do not know if there were possible differences there in terms of landownership, etc. (maybe something like crofts, for example). This was NOT a palace or serfs or anything like that!

However, it does set a sort of precedent. I know of one princess who is trying to gain a restitution in St Petersburg. I think that, of course, the state will not allow it, because it will simply open the floodgates. And so many people close to the authorities, important museums, public organisations now reside in these palaces.

But if I were the families, I would certainly try - the whole thing might eventually go to Strasbourg, and who knows what they might rule, especially as there must be a law that allows the Church to reclaim land. On the other hand, Russia is the legal successor to the Soviet Union, so it can just claim it was nationalisation - just like the nationalisation that happens in many Western countries, where people there also lose out.