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Re: The House of Baviera=Bavaria in Spain
« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2006, 08:53:34 AM »



Princess Maria del Pilar
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Re: The House of Baviera=Bavaria in Spain
« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2006, 03:37:21 PM »


Queen Maria Christina, her children Maria de las Mercedes (left), Maria Teresa and lttle Alfonso XIII.



Archduke Friedrich, Queen Maria Christina, Infanta Isabella, Archduchess Isabella, Mercedes, unknown boy, Maria Teresa and Alfonso XIII.
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Re: The House of Baviera=Bavaria in Spain
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2006, 11:07:29 AM »
The sixth person, standing between Mercedes and María Teresa is Prince Gennaro of the Two Sicilies.
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Re: The House of Baviera=Bavaria in Spain
« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2006, 04:02:34 PM »
Quote from: umigon on October 03, 2006, 11:07:29 AM
The sixth person, standing between Mercedes and María Teresa is Prince Gennaro of the Two Sicilies.

Do you mean Gennaro (1882-1944), son of Alfonso di Caserta and Antonia Princess of the Two Sicilies? I would have never thought of him. Thanks.

Can you confirm that the woman between Maria Christina and Archduchess Isabella is Infanta Isabella, widow of Gaëtano di Girgenti? I guess this photo had been taken in about 1895. So Isabella must have been in her fourties, but on this picture the woman who is supposed to be Isabella looks so much older, maybe 60. 
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Re: The House of Baviera=Bavaria in Spain
« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2006, 04:05:19 AM »
It's that Gennaro, yes.


About the woman, she certainly is Isabel, la "Chata", eldest daughter of Isabel II. She was in her mid-forties but we should bear in mind that in those times people, and especially women, looked older than nowadays. Then, Isabel was very fat and had never taken a real interest in showing herself pretty... she didn't care about her physical looks too much...
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Re: The House of Baviera=Bavaria in Spain
« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2006, 06:17:46 AM »
Quote from: MarieCharlotte on October 01, 2006, 08:53:34 AM



Princess Maria del Pilar

Thank you for the picture.
I've never seen it before.
Does anybody know why she never married ? Were there any suitors to her ?
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« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2006, 06:24:58 AM »
She was madly in love with her cousin King Alfonso XIII, but he never ever felt attracted by her!! She had some kind of depression for that reason. Maybe that's why she never married... By modern standards, I think Pilar would have been much more attractive to us than Victoria Eugenia!
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Re: The House of Baviera=Bavaria in Spain
« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2006, 06:50:13 AM »
Quote from: umigon on October 05, 2006, 06:24:58 AM
She was madly in love with her cousin King Alfonso XIII, but he never ever felt attracted by her!!

Really? How very interesting! :o
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Re: The House of Baviera=Bavaria in Spain
« Reply #23 on: October 05, 2006, 06:54:38 AM »
It really is, much more if we bear in mind that Alfonso was a very... let's say... "passionate" man! ;)
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Re: The House of Baviera=Bavaria in Spain
« Reply #24 on: October 05, 2006, 01:41:44 PM »
Quote from: umigon on October 05, 2006, 06:24:58 AM
She was madly in love with her cousin King Alfonso XIII, but he never ever felt attracted by her!! She had some kind of depression for that reason. Maybe that's why she never married... By modern standards, I think Pilar would have been much more attractive to us than Victoria Eugenia!

Wow I have never heard that.
Thank you for sharing it with us.

I am looking for a picture of her cousin Maria de las Mercedes de Baviera, Princess Irakly de Bagration.
Can someone post it, please ?
Thanks in advance.
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Re: The House of Baviera=Bavaria in Spain
« Reply #25 on: October 05, 2006, 03:44:02 PM »
Quote from: umigon on October 05, 2006, 06:24:58 AM
She was madly in love with her cousin King Alfonso XIII, but he never ever felt attracted by her!!

I can't believe it! Alfonso was such an unattractive, ugly man !!!
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Re: The House of Baviera=Bavaria in Spain
« Reply #26 on: October 05, 2006, 04:12:37 PM »
I always thought so too but apparently many women found him charming and charismatic. Too each his own, I suppose.
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Re: The House of Baviera=Bavaria in Spain
« Reply #27 on: October 14, 2006, 11:07:52 AM »

I am looking for a picture of her cousin Maria de las Mercedes de Baviera, Princess Irakly de Bagration.
Can someone post it, please ?
Thanks in advance.
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Re: The House of Baviera=Bavaria in Spain
« Reply #28 on: October 14, 2006, 01:15:28 PM »
Quote from: José on October 14, 2006, 11:07:52 AM

I am looking for a picture of her cousin Maria de las Mercedes de Baviera, Princess Irakly de Bagration.
Can someone post it, please ?
Thanks in advance.

Please  ::)
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Here are Maria de las Mercedes and her stepmother, 2nd spouse of Infant Ferdinand



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Re: The House of Baviera=Bavaria in Spain
« Reply #29 on: October 14, 2006, 06:09:36 PM »
Yes,Maria Luisa de Silva,Duchessa de Talavera de la Reina...
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