Windsor Jewels Part 5

[grandduchessella]

Sorry, EE, I was trying to 'fix' the problem. I think I picked the wrong photo to 'flip'.  Shows how much I know about Orders.

Let's try this:

[Eric_Lowe]

I guess the Queen must be one of the last 3 to have George V's family Order. ( Princess Alexandra & The Duke of Kent may have one too). 

[ChristineM]

And, perhaps, the Duke of Gloucester.

tsaria

[brnbg aka: liljones1968]

Sorry, EE, I was trying to 'fix' the problem. I think I picked the wrong photo to 'flip'.  Shows how much I know about Orders.

Let's try this:

i don't think i've seen that necklace before...   it looks modern (as in 20th century).    does anyone have any info about it?


and an 'off-topic' for grandduchessella:   a belated congratulations on little Ella's 5th birthday (she's adorable, btw.   you do very good work!    )

[Martyn]

She never seems to wear the lovely George VI ruby and diamond bandeau necklace any more.....

Well, it does require a bit of décolletage; HM hasn't worn anything nearly low-cut enough for decades.

We'll llikely have to wait until the Duchess of Cornwall has it at her disposal before we see it once more.   

I think that you're right about that.

It is quite a long necklace and does require a low evening neckline to show it to advantage, something that the Queen very sensibly no longer requires for her dresses.

I would like to see it worn by one of the younger royals; too much jewellery is not a good look for the Duchess who IMO looks better in her simpler daytime and evening ensembles, with smaller jewellery.........

[Martyn]

A review of rubies...




Wearing another necklace, possibly the inferior one mentioned by Martyn.  How I detest the fact that this photo has been 'flipped' and that the Garter sash and the family orders seem to be on the wrong side...

That is indeed the 'inferior necklace'.  Many thanks emeraldeyes for digging it out.

I really dislike this piece.  I simply think that it looks like costume jewellery; it is so similar to some of the junk that I regulalry have to buy for our productions that it makes me almost shudder.  Such a shame, because the sizes of the cabochon ruby centre stone and drop are impressive, rubies being rare and generally smaller, compared to sapphies and emeralds.  The chains of diamonds look like so much paste......

I love the Baring necklace, but then I am very much a fan of Victorian and Edwardian jewellery.  It has been suggested that the two side drops on this necklace were once earrings and were added to the necklace at some later date, possibly by HM, who after all, seems to have no shortage of earrings to wear with these necklaces! 

[Alexander1917]

Sorry, EE, I was trying to 'fix' the problem. I think I picked the wrong photo to 'flip'.  Shows how much I know about Orders.

Let's try this:

i don't think i've seen that necklace before...   it looks modern (as in 20th century).    does anyone have any info about it?


and an 'off-topic' for grandduchessella:   a belated congratulations on little Ella's 5th birthday (she's adorable, btw.   you do very good work!    )

L.Field says (p.138) " As recently as 1985, on a State visit to England, the Amir of Qatar presented the Queen with a diamond swag necklace with a centre peice of two large rubies."

[grandduchessella]

I guess the Queen must be one of the last 3 to have George V's family Order. ( Princess Alexandra & The Duke of Kent may have one too). 

Wikipedia says that Alexandra was that of George VI and EII.

" The Queen herself wears the Family Orders of her father King George VI and her grandfather King George V; she does not wear her own. Princess Alexandra has those of King George VI and The Queen. Those who wear that of The Queen only are The Countess of Wessex, The Princess Royal, Zara Phillips, The Duchess of Gloucester and The Duchess of Kent. The late Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother, wore those of King George V, King George VI, and The Queen. The late Princess Alice, Duchess of Gloucester, also wore those of King George V, King George VI and The Queen. The late Princess Margaret wore the same as her mother, Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother. The late Diana, Princess of Wales wore that of The Queen only."

Sarah, Princess Michael and now Camilla apparently didn't receive the Order.

Brnbg--thanks about Ella.   

[emeraldeyes1969]

Sorry, EE, I was trying to 'fix' the problem. I think I picked the wrong photo to 'flip'.  Shows how much I know about Orders.

Oh, you were trying to help and I thought you were being mischievous and trying to vex me!  Ha!  Many thanks for the 'fix'.  I'll be able to sleep at night again knowing that there is no photo-flipping virus lurking in the depths of cyberspace.   (deep breath, comes out of hiding place in basement with photo-file cds.)
And we both know that you know plenty about orders! 

[emeraldeyes1969]

Wikipedia says

...Those who wear that of The Queen only are.. Zara Phillips...

I have trouble believing that Zara has the family order, if only because she really has no opportunity to wear it.  Now having said that, I suppose if she doesn't have the opportinity to wear it, we'll never really know if she has it or not.     A case of chicken and egg I suppose.   

Sarah, Princess Michael and now Camilla apparently didn't receive the Order.

I can see only one person on that list who has absolutely zero chance of ever getting it; one is quite likely and the other is a dark horse.

[Mary R.]

How did QEII receive the George V order? Does she wear it because she lived during George V's reign (even though she was a young child)? Silly question probably..

I have trouble believing that Zara has the family order, if only because she really has no opportunity to wear it.  Now having said that, I suppose if she doesn't have the opportinity to wear it, we'll never really know if she has it or not.     A case of chicken and egg I suppose.   

I also wonder if she has the family order... I see her as one who might not want to wear it.

Mary R.

[ChristineM]

It does look like costume jewellery, Martyn.   Mark you, I think a lot of it looks like costume jewellery.   'Philistine', I hear you mutter.   

Re the Duchess of Cornwall and adornment - you are quite right Martyn.   She looks infinitely better in a neat little two piece.   Perhaps she realises this herself given her penchant for them.   Apart from her wedding day ensemble which I loved - including the hat/tiara, I don't recall seeing her in evening wear that I either liked, or felt she looked comfortable wearing.   The worst example of excess was the Dehli Durbar tiara she wore with big hair.   I thought she looked like a caricature.    I have to 'fess up here.   I'm not wild about tiaras in general.  I admire the beauty of the jewels and the art of the jeweller.   However, in this day and age, I think they look slightly ridiculous.   That's probably why I liked the variant Camilla wore on her wedding day.    I'm sure I'm in a minority of one - I'm already preparing to dodge the brickbats.

tsaria

PS:  I've e-mailed my cousin telling him WE are awaiting his critique.   Apologies for making this thread a bit of a hybrid and posting here rather on the thread devoted to Camilla.   A case of falling between two tiaras!

[emeraldeyes1969]

I really dislike this piece.  I simply think that it looks like costume jewellery; it is so similar to some of the junk that I regulalry have to buy for our productions that it makes me almost shudder.  Such a shame, because the sizes of the cabochon ruby centre stone and drop are impressive, rubies being rare and generally smaller, compared to sapphies and emeralds.  The chains of diamonds look like so much paste......

Agreed, the large rubies are amazing, but the rest of the necklace looks rather weird.

I love the Baring necklace, but then I am very much a fan of Victorian and Edwardian jewellery.  It has been suggested that the two side drops on this necklace were once earrings and were added to the necklace at some later date, possibly by HM, who after all, seems to have no shortage of earrings to wear with these necklaces! 

I like this necklace too, but the whole centre part looks like an adaptation-alteration-add-on to me.  Not only the side earring/pendants, but also the large centre part looks like it was originally a brooch or perhaps a pendant on another piece.  It is nice though, and I would certainly take deliver from FedEx should I ever be so fortunate.

[emeraldeyes1969]

How did QEII receive the George V order? Does she wear it because she lived during George V's reign (even though she was a young child)? Silly question probably..
Mary R.

For some reason I have it in my head that it was a jubilee gift from George V to the little princess, but I could be making that up. 

[Martyn]

It does look like costume jewellery, Martyn.   Mark you, I think a lot of it looks like costume jewellery.   'Philistine', I hear you mutter.   


tsaria

PS:  I've e-mailed my cousin telling him WE are awaiting his critique.   Apologies for making this thread a bit of a hybrid and posting here rather on the thread devoted to Camilla.   A case of falling between two tiaras!

I am reeling with horror......... 

P.S.  Can't wait for that critique.........