Author Topic: Windsor Jewels Part 5 (Read 189430 times)

Martyn · « **Reply #450 on:** May 31, 2007, 11:37:44 AM »

Quote from: emeraldeyes on May 31, 2007, 08:59:18 AM

Agreed, the large rubies are amazing, but the rest of the necklace looks rather weird.

I like this necklace too, but the whole centre part looks like an adaptation-alteration-add-on to me. Not only the side earring/pendants, but also the large centre part looks like it was originally a brooch or perhaps a pendant on another piece. It is nice though, and I would certainly take deliver from FedEx should I ever be so fortunate.

A good way to describe it......weird....and short......

The Baring necklace does look a bit of a hybrid. Probably the earrings being added, but I see what you say about the central section (or rather I have been straining my old eyes to see what you mean....

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What time do you want Fedex to deliver???

Emperor of the Dominions · « **Reply #451 on:** May 31, 2007, 12:34:34 PM »

Somebody please remind me of the name of the ruby and diamond tiara H.M. is seen wearing in the 'flipped' photo. Thank you.

R.I.

emeraldeyes1969 · « **Reply #452 on:** May 31, 2007, 01:21:22 PM »

Well, I always think of it as "The Tiara for the Royal Fireworks", but I think generally it's referred to as the Modern Ruby Tiara.

ashdean · « **Reply #453 on:** May 31, 2007, 03:54:29 PM »

Quote from: emeraldeyes on May 31, 2007, 01:21:22 PM

Well, I always think of it as "The Tiara for the Royal Fireworks", but I think generally it's referred to as the Modern Ruby Tiara.

The modern Ruby tiara is much more stylish than the historic Indian tiara..

emeraldeyes1969 · « **Reply #454 on:** May 31, 2007, 04:03:05 PM »

Really? I much prefer the Indian ruby tiara, the lines seem more graceful and flowing, a very elegant jewel IMO.
I always hear Handel playing in the background whenever I see the newer one - still, the rubies are a wonderful colour and HM seems to like it well enough. Who am I to argue?

Mary R. · « **Reply #455 on:** May 31, 2007, 04:52:44 PM »

Quote from: emeraldeyes on May 31, 2007, 09:21:29 AM

For some reason I have it in my head that it was a jubilee gift from George V to the little princess, but I could be making that up.

I also had that idea... it seemed to be a likely explanation.

Mary R.

Leuchtenberg · « **Reply #456 on:** May 31, 2007, 07:42:23 PM »

Quote from: Mary R. on May 31, 2007, 04:52:44 PM

Quote from: emeraldeyes on May 31, 2007, 09:21:29 AM
For some reason I have it in my head that it was a jubilee gift from George V to the little princess, but I could be making that up.
I also had that idea... it seemed to be a likely explanation.

Mary R.

Both princesses received their grandfather's order at the time of his jubilee, yes.

Eric_Lowe · « **Reply #457 on:** May 31, 2007, 07:59:33 PM »

You mean Elisabeth & Alexandra right ?

Martyn · « **Reply #458 on:** June 01, 2007, 04:02:15 AM »

Quote from: emeraldeyes on May 31, 2007, 04:03:05 PM

Really? I much prefer the Indian ruby tiara, the lines seem more graceful and flowing, a very elegant jewel IMO.
I always hear Handel playing in the background whenever I see the newer one - still, the rubies are a wonderful colour and HM seems to like it well enough. Who am I to argue?

I have to agree with that. The Oriental Circlet has a lovely design, as emeraldeyes suggests, very graceful and flowing, although the rubies are a little on the small side. I'm surprised the this piece has yet to appear on Camilla's head......or has it?

The Queen's modern ruby tiara is a lovely piece; I had never really thought of it in terms of 'fireworks' but that is a lovely allusion. I'm not a big fan of the Queen's modern tiaras and this is not really to my taste (being an antique, I have a leaning towarsd the antique!) but the ruby and diamond content is high and the Queen wears it often, so she must be fond of it........

Eric_Lowe · « **Reply #459 on:** June 01, 2007, 04:03:53 AM »

Yes it look like flames.

Martyn · « **Reply #460 on:** June 01, 2007, 06:08:41 AM »

Quote from: Eric_Lowe on June 01, 2007, 04:03:53 AM

Yes it look like flames.

I think that the original purposes of the design is was to suggest flowers clustered amongst floral sprays, but flames and fireworks do spring to mind........

Leuchtenberg · « **Reply #461 on:** June 01, 2007, 09:10:14 AM »

Quote from: Eric_Lowe on May 31, 2007, 07:59:33 PM

You mean Elisabeth & Alexandra right ?

No. Elizabeth and Margaret. Princess Alexandra wasn't born until after the death of her grandfather.

Mary R. · « **Reply #462 on:** June 01, 2007, 03:54:00 PM »

Thank you so much for your answer!

I have wondered that for some time.

Mary R.

Emperor of the Dominions · « **Reply #463 on:** June 02, 2007, 06:30:11 PM »

I like the design of the Modern Ruby Tiara, but I find the deep settings of the rubies a bit heavy. I also like the graceful Indian Circlet and like Martin find the rubies small, but the size may have suited the original Opals that were mounted.

R.I.

Martyn · « **Reply #464 on:** June 03, 2007, 03:07:41 AM »

Quote from: Emperor of the Dominions on June 02, 2007, 06:30:11 PM

I like the design of the Modern Ruby Tiara, but I find the deep settings of the rubies a bit heavy. I also like the graceful Indian Circlet and like Martin find the rubies small, but the size may have suited the original Opals that were mounted.

R.I.

I agree with that. Of course the modern ruby tiara was designed to incorporate the gift of rubies from the Burmese Government, and I suppose as such, they were meant to be the most important element in the design of this piece. It is very much of its time in its design.

You might be right about the size of the opals dictating the size of the rubies in the Oriental Circlet, Emperor. I'm not sure how much QA might have been able to alter this piece had she so wished, as it was one of the jewels that QV had designated as part of the Crown Collection; I suspect however that if she had some monumental rubies that she wanted to put in, she would have had them mounted in this tiara........

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