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Re: Identification,please
« Reply #45 on: December 15, 2008, 01:31:11 PM »
I don't think so. I have a few photos cdvs of her. That lady was Archduchess Clothide.

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Re: Identification,please
« Reply #46 on: December 15, 2008, 02:34:47 PM »
I don't think so. I have a few photos cdvs of her. That lady was Archduchess Clothide.

Do you have a clearer version oа the picture posted by  MarieCharlotte?...Even with a blurry one I don't see the famous nose of Clothilde.

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Re: Identification,please
« Reply #47 on: December 15, 2008, 04:09:48 PM »
Yes...That would help. Elisabeth had such a sad face, while Clothide's much prouder.

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Re: Identification,please
« Reply #48 on: December 16, 2008, 11:36:11 AM »

The picture is from a hungarian site, and the descripiton of the photo:

Magyar csoport a Kóburg nagyszülők ezüstlakodalma alkalmából rendezett családi ünnepen. A jobbszélen József főherceg, előtte Klotild főhercegasszony, vele szemben nővére, Amália hercegnő, Erzsébet királyné fivérének Miksa bajor hercegnek a felesége.

"Hungarian <dressed> group for the occassion of the silver wedding of the Coburg grandparents, right is Archduke Joseph, in front of him Archduchess Klotilde, in front of her Amalie, her sister, wife of Max, the brother of Queen Elisabeth.." (the text doesn't mention other ones)

I don't think, that Klotilde isn't on the picture, but Joseph and his siter-in-law are on it....

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Re: Identification,please
« Reply #49 on: December 16, 2008, 11:40:07 AM »
I think in light of the importance of the occcation. It would be odd if Clothide wasn't there. I think she wasin the photo as stated in the site.

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Re: Identification,please
« Reply #50 on: December 16, 2008, 12:25:31 PM »


I don't think, that Klotilde isn't on the picture,

I do think Clothilde is not in the pic. What's the year of the picture? She could be pregnant at the time and so absent from the picture. I still think that's Archduchess Elisabeth in front of Archduke Joseph.
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Re: Identification,please
« Reply #51 on: December 16, 2008, 01:54:23 PM »

The picture was taken possibly in 1868. Marie Dorothea was born in June 1867.
But, Svetabel, you can be right...

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Re: Identification,please
« Reply #52 on: December 16, 2008, 03:55:22 PM »
I am almost certain it was not Elisabeth...

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Re: Identification,please
« Reply #53 on: December 17, 2008, 12:43:25 AM »
I agree with Eric. If the occassion was the Coburg Silver wedding, then it would be odd if Klotilde wasn't there. Clementine and August married in 1843, then the picture was taken in 1868 for the Silver wedding. Dorothea was born the year before and Margarethe only in 1870, so Klotilde was not pregnant. I tend to believe it is Klotilde. But a larger version would indeed help.

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Re: Identification,please
« Reply #54 on: December 17, 2008, 02:37:47 AM »

Maybe the original photo is owned by the Historical Photo Gallery in Hungary. I will try to search for it soon...

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Re: Identification,please
« Reply #55 on: December 18, 2008, 06:25:52 AM »
Sorry, folks, but I don't have a bigger version of this amazing picture!
Ich aber breite trauernd aus
die weiten weissen Schwingen,
Und kehr' ins Feenreich nach Haus -
Nichts soll mich wieder bringen.


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Re: Identification,please
« Reply #56 on: March 05, 2009, 02:01:57 PM »
This was the photo in question correct? Don't know if we ever came to a solid conclusion..



It is certainly Gaston and Ferdinand, in my opinion. The hair lines match the Nemours brothers. Ferdinand already getting that delightful flip of his bangs..



Also the photograph was taken at Osborne, where the Duchess of Nemours was often invited to stay during the Orleans exile in England.
« Last Edit: March 05, 2009, 02:04:38 PM by PrinceEddy1864 »
from the top of the ocean to the bottom of the sky.
albert victor christian edward.

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Re: Identification,please
« Reply #57 on: March 05, 2009, 03:58:18 PM »
I never saw a photo of the duchess of Nemours. I am not sure one exists...

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Re: Identification,please
« Reply #58 on: March 05, 2009, 09:18:01 PM »
I was saying the photo of the two boys was taken at Osborne, where the Nemours would have been.


and yes there is the photo of the Duchess with her boys on the jaconde.
from the top of the ocean to the bottom of the sky.
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Re: Identification,please
« Reply #59 on: March 06, 2009, 10:33:06 AM »
I never saw a photo of the duchess of Nemours. I am not sure one exists...

There is a photo of Victoire on her deathbed.
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