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Re: Identification,please
« Reply #90 on: May 22, 2010, 06:14:03 PM »
From ebay:

The seller wasn´t sure who these now are

Ferdinand Alencon



A Francoise of Orleans with child 1875



And two unknown Orleans princesses



So what do you think??

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Re: Identification,please
« Reply #91 on: May 22, 2010, 07:15:45 PM »
I think that they are not royals at all.

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« Reply #92 on: May 23, 2010, 09:34:40 AM »
The women have the Orleans nose. Hmm..

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Re: Identification,please
« Reply #93 on: May 23, 2010, 01:12:00 PM »
i have the orleans nose and im not orleans. Im with Veronica,. they re probably not royals at all

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« Reply #94 on: May 23, 2010, 03:21:57 PM »
Okay :)

If there are no more photos or other clues, I accept it.

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Re: Identification,please
« Reply #95 on: May 26, 2010, 02:43:36 AM »
The first Photograph is Ferdinand d'Alencon
Ferdinand Philippe Marie Duc d'Alençon was the second son of  Louis Charles Philippe Raphael, Duc de Nemours and Victoria, Princess of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha. He was born on 12 July 1844 in Neuilly-sur-Seine and died on 29 June 1910 in Belmont, Wimbledon.
He married Sophie in Bavaria on 28 September 1868 at Possenhofen, had a daughter called Louise and a son called Emmanuel.
see Jan. 24 2006 post 4th post down has photograph as teenager...

http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php?topic=5960.0

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Re: Identification,please
« Reply #96 on: June 01, 2010, 06:41:50 AM »
I think that they are not royals at all.

I agree. In my opinion the young man isn't Ferdinand d'Alençon.
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« Reply #97 on: June 01, 2010, 06:45:28 AM »
I found these pictures in Michael of Greece's new book about the Orléans. The children are identified as "niece and nephew of the Duke d'Aumale" - but what are their names? Are they children of Antoine de Montpensier?

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Re: Identification,please
« Reply #98 on: June 01, 2010, 06:45:31 PM »
The girl looks like Francoise de Joinville, future Duchess of Chartres:



And the boy looks like one of the Duke d'Aumale's sons, the prince of Conde


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Re: Identification,please
« Reply #99 on: June 09, 2010, 12:45:23 PM »
From ebay:



These two are clearly the same two girls and greatly resemble Clementine Saxe-Coburg's daughters. I'm not sure they are though. Perhaps the person who id'ed them just noticed the resemblance..

The boy is not Alencon in my opinion.

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« Reply #100 on: June 09, 2010, 12:49:03 PM »
MC, thanks so much for sharing those great images from Prince Michael's book!!! I still don't have it.

I agree with Veronica about their identifications.
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« Reply #101 on: June 10, 2010, 03:53:06 AM »
These two are clearly the same two girls and greatly resemble Clementine Saxe-Coburg's daughters. I'm not sure they are though. Perhaps the person who id'ed them just noticed the resemblance..

Yes, there is a great resemblance. But the photographer, A. Ken, is totally unknown to me. I guess most pictures of Clémentine's children were taken by Angerer and other famous studios like Adele.

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Re: Identification,please
« Reply #102 on: June 18, 2010, 03:27:25 AM »
No its not Alencon he has a very distinctive nose... I was going after the Comte d' Eu and its probably not him either but he is the one with the large round face and similar hairstyle! That's why the photographs are of the Comte except for the first one...I can't think how I got the name wrong except I should probably not post after 12 a.m. (smiley)!

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Re: Identification,please
« Reply #103 on: August 13, 2010, 02:52:20 PM »
There were a number of Princesses de Condé in the 1700s. Which one is this?


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« Reply #104 on: August 13, 2010, 02:55:14 PM »