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Re: Who is the rightful heir?
« Reply #285 on: April 11, 2005, 06:09:17 AM »
maria in spain is nothing but a  gold digging BITCH
and her son would  not be welcomed in RUSSIA.
HER father grandfather whatever did not help  Nicholas  wife  and children when  needed  help but took troops away; his agenda was to make sure they were all killed.

ROYALTY  is a cover up for criminals and they get away with it , but not in
GOD'S  eyes they will be vindicated.

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« Reply #286 on: April 11, 2005, 08:17:28 AM »

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Re: Who is the rightful heir?
« Reply #287 on: April 12, 2005, 04:53:39 AM »
If the equal marriage law is taken into account would the Heir not be the Serbian Royal Family or the Kents of England?

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« Reply #288 on: April 12, 2005, 09:04:10 AM »
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If the equal marriage law is taken into account would the Heir not be the Serbian Royal Family or the Kents of England?

If the all succession laws are taken into account then the Head of the House would be GDss Maria Vladimirovna.

If you prefer to exclude her as issue of non equal marriage (Bagration) then look amongst Leiningen issue of GDss Maria Kirillovna.

If you prefer to exclude them as issue of non equal marriage (merely mediatized House) then look amongst Prussian issue of GDss Kira Kirillovna. Nobody can say Prussians are not equal  ;)

And only if you prefer to exclude the whole issue of Cyril Vladimirovich (married without approval or something like), then came Greek issue of his sister GDss Helena Vladimirovna.

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Re: Who is the rightful heir?
« Reply #289 on: April 15, 2005, 12:34:12 PM »
Grand Duke George is the son of Grand Duchess Maria who was the daughter of Grand Duke Vladimir who was the son of Grand Duke Kyril first cousin of Nicolas II.

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« Reply #290 on: April 15, 2005, 12:39:49 PM »
Thankyou for that history lesson. I'm sure we're all a lot smarter now.  ::)

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« Reply #291 on: April 15, 2005, 12:48:00 PM »
Once and for all:I want the Russian Monarchy restored.The only one among the Romanovs that want the Monarchy restored is Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna.Grand Duke Nicolas Romanov does not want the Monarchy restored,so he is out of the question.Grand Duchess Maria is the daughter of the late Grand Duke Vladimir who was recognised by all as the Head of the Imperial Family in exile,and he decreed that his daughter Maria would succed him.

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« Reply #292 on: April 15, 2005, 01:20:25 PM »
Although Grand Duchess Maria is indeed Dyanstic claimant, she has NEVER expressed any interest in the restoration of the monarchy. She has only expressed the desire to have her family return to serve the Russian people- in whatever role the RUSSIAN people choose for them. This has been limited to religous and cultural events. Not to any political involvement. She is pragmatic enough to accept that any restoration of the monarchy in  Russia is unrealistic
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« Reply #293 on: April 15, 2005, 10:40:12 PM »
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Once and for all:I want the Russian Monarchy restored.


And people care what you think because........?

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« Reply #294 on: April 15, 2005, 11:42:07 PM »
Grand Duke Nicolas ? Remind me, please.
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Re: Who is the rightful heir?
« Reply #295 on: April 16, 2005, 06:02:22 AM »
I assume he means Nikolai Romanovich, Rostya.

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Re: Who is the rightful heir?
« Reply #296 on: April 17, 2005, 06:47:42 PM »
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after the fall of the communist regime. I was asked what i thought should be done with Ipatiev house, after i asked a few questions i thought it was standing as a monument to murder and said i would chose to tear it down. Six weeks later it was destroyed.


That's interesting. But, the house was actually demolished in the 1970s, by order of Boris Yeltsin, years before the fall of communism...

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« Reply #297 on: April 18, 2005, 11:01:21 PM »
Nicholas Romanovich is not opposed to the restoration of the monarchy. I believe his opinion is that he supports the Russian public and thinks that democratic traditions must take precedence over any particular form of government. Once these are estabalished, then the Russian people can decide what form of government they want.

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« Reply #298 on: April 25, 2005, 09:29:23 PM »
I'm sure this has been asked before. . . .
  what if the Revolution had never happened, Alex and Nick never had another son, and Alexi died before he could take the throne, could Olga rule on her own? or would the power go to her husband?
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« Reply #299 on: April 25, 2005, 10:07:26 PM »
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I'm sure this has been asked before. . . .
   what if the Revolution had never happened, Alex and Nick never had another son, and Alexi died before he could take the throne, could Olga rule on her own? or would the power go to her husband?


Neither Olga nor her husband (unless she married a dynast in his own right) would have been able to succeed because Russia had a semi-Salic succession law. As of 1917, the order of succession to Nicholas was:

1. HIH The Tsesarevich Alexei Nikolievich
2. HIH Grand Duke Michael Alexandrovich
3. HIH Grand Duke Kiril Vladimirovich
4. HIH Prince Vladimir Kirilovich (b. 1917)
5. HIH Grand Duke Boris Vladimirovich
6. HIH Grand Duke Andrei Vladimirovich
7. HIH Grand Duke Dmitri Pavlovich