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Re: Hohenzollern - German Imperial Yacht 1892
« on: September 30, 2004, 02:32:03 AM »
There is a fairly recently published book on various luxury yachts (I have it here somewhere-if I can locate it tomorrow I will post the information) that has a long chapter on "Hohenzollern," with a lot of interior photographs (IF I had a scanner!).

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Re: Hohenzollern - German Imperial Yacht 1892
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2004, 04:51:07 AM »
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No, it isn't that one-it's not specifically on royal/imperial yachts but rather luxury yachts from the 1890s-1940s or so.  I will see if I can find it (I stand a better chance with it as I think I might know where it is) and post details if I do.

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Re: Hohenzollern - German Imperial Yacht 1892
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2004, 08:09:57 PM »

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Re: Hohenzollern - German Imperial Yacht 1892
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2004, 09:31:22 PM »
An excerpt from "Castles of Steel" by Robert K. Massie, Random House, 2003:

"...Despite her gold and white paintwork (“gleaming swan plumage,” one passenger called it), the top-heavy Hohenzollern, with her ram bow and bell-mouthed funnels, was the unloveliest royal yacht in Europe. Her navigation officer, Erich Raeder, described her as a “lumbering monstrosity . . . [that] rolled in rough weather to a point uncomfortable even for old sailors. Her watertight integrity would not have met the safety requirements of even an ordinary passenger ship.” None of this troubled the kaiser, who used her only in the Baltic, the North Sea, and the Mediterranean, never in the heavier seas of the North Atlantic. In any case, his cruises to Norway were spent mostly at anchor in a spectacular fjord. There, surrounded by sparkling blue water, granite cliffs and dark green forests, plunging waterfalls wreathed in mist, and patches of sloping meadow dotted with farmhouses, William felt completely at ease. Some rules were always observed—no one ever spoke to the kaiser unless he had spoken first—but now, at fifty-five, he was more mature and composed than the youthful Prince Hal of a quarter century before. When he embarked on the first of his all-male yachting trips to Norway, taking with him a dozen friends whom he referred to as his “brother officers,” the atmosphere resembled that of a rowdy junior officers’ mess. By 1914, the atmosphere had become more correct, but the guest list remained all male. William’s wife, Empress Augusta, whom he called Dona, remained in Berlin. “I don’t care for women,” he said. “Women should stay home and look after their children.”

The kaiser’s day on the yacht was rigidly scheduled: mild exercises before breakfast; in good weather, an hour in his small sailboat; in the afternoons, shore excursions or rowing contests between the crews of the Hohenzollern and the escorting cruiser Rostock. These activities, however, were not allowed to interfere with the kaiser’s afternoon nap. To get the most from this hour and a half of rest, William always removed all of his clothing and got into bed. “There’s nothing like getting in between two clean, cold sheets,” he declared. At seven, the company sat down to dinner, where the kaiser drank only orange juice sipped from a silver goblet. Every evening after dinner, the party gathered in the smoking room. This summer [1914], along with songs and card games, William and his guests listened to lectures on the American Civil War..."

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Re: Hohenzollern - German Imperial Yacht 1892
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2004, 05:09:21 PM »
Dear Greg:
Would the book you are refering to be"
"The Golden Century: Classic Motor Yachts-1830 to 1930" by Ross MacTaggart, published in 2001?
If not, it has a wonderful section on the German Imperial Yacht "Hohenzollern" on pages 33-39, with excellent pictures of the interiors and decks.
Hope this is helpful.

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Re: Hohenzollern - German Imperial Yacht 1892
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2004, 05:29:58 PM »
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Dear Greg:
Would the book you are refering to be"
"The Golden Century: Classic Motor Yachts-1830 to 1930" by Ross MacTaggart, published in 2001?
If not, it has a wonderful section on the German Imperial Yacht "Hohenzollern" on pages 33-39, with excellent pictures of the interiors and decks.
Hope this is helpful.


Yes!  Douglas wrote me last week, asking if this was the book I was trying to find, and it is.  For anyone interested in "Hohenzollern" it's definitely worth seeking out.

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Re: Hohenzollern - German Imperial Yacht 1892
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2004, 04:02:35 PM »
According to Erik Hofman in his Steam Yachts: An Era of Elegance, the Kaiser planned a third Hohenzollern.
Begun in 1913, by the Vulcan yards, this ship as to be THE great royal yacht. At a length of 520 feet (est.) it would have eclipsed the Standart and the Victoria and Albert of his cousins, as no doubt the Kaiser intended. A drawing of it shows it would have looked much like those two with a schooner bow, two raked funnels, etc only much grander. The war prevented its completion, and it was sold and broken up for scrap in 1923.
Harald states that the Hohenzollern (II) was broken up in 1923, but the souces I have all state that the fate of this famous imperial yacht is unknown. Do you have any further information as to its fate?

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Re: Hohenzollern - German Imperial Yacht 1892
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2004, 11:43:13 AM »
I think the Hohenzollern was magnificent. Massie's description has some good detail, but we must remember that Massie is heavily anti-German anything in his writings. His "Dreadnought" was a symphony of bias opinionating. He does tend to put forth facts, but often draws upside-down conclusions.
Also, what about the Kaiser's ship call Meteor?
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Re: Hohenzollern - German Imperial Yacht 1892
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2004, 02:52:49 PM »
Can anyone scan a design of the Hohenzollern III? 520 feet sounds supremely excessive...that's a full 1/4 larger than the Standart which was the largest yacht in the world! What could all that space be used for, esp since the Kaiser's yachtings were mostly intimate affairs?

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Re: Hohenzollern - German Imperial Yacht 1892
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2005, 08:43:18 AM »
I am looking for info on the the kaiser's visit to the
holy-land in 1898 on the yacht ship Hohenzollern.
Did the ship have any cannon gun on the deck?
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Re: Hohenzollern - German Imperial Yacht 1892
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2005, 04:13:57 AM »
DUMB QUESTION
Is the Erich Raeder mentioned above the same Admiral Raeder of WW II fame?????

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Re: Hohenzollern - German Imperial Yacht 1892
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Re: Hohenzollern - German Imperial Yacht 1892
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2007, 03:34:51 AM »
DUMB QUESTION
Is the Erich Raeder mentioned above the same Admiral Raeder of WW II fame?????

Yes

Erich Raeder also served on the yacht:

http://www.feldgrau.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=63999&sid=a690c371a974150c97fac434435cf3e9

From 15 September 1910 to 30 September 1912 Eric Raeder was the Navigation Officer of the Imperial Yacht Hohenzollern. [During Raeder’s tenure as navigation officer of the Hohenzollern, she was commanded successively by Kapitän zur See Oskar Graf von Platen-Hallermund (1 October 1908-10 October 1911) and Kapitän zur See Johannes von Karpf (11 November 1911-31 July 1914). The latter officer commanded the battlecruiser Moltke during the Battle of Jutland.]

A young Erich Raeder on the yacht with the Kaiser.Raeder is sitting on the right next to Wilhelm.

From: Erich Raeder:Mein Leben,1956.


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Re: Hohenzollern - German Imperial Yacht 1892
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2007, 07:17:03 AM »
Unfortunately the links to the Hohenzollern pictures are not functioning. It is interesting to note that there was no German Imperial Yacht before the accession of Kaiser Wilhelm II and that the Hohenzollern had not always been a yacht. The Russians of course had the Polar Star before the Standart was commissioned. Both were built purely to function as imperial yachts. The British had a long history of royal yachts which sadly came to an end with the decommissioning of the Britannia. Britain lost a great deal of prestige over that event. Norway still has the Norge and Denmark the Dannebrog.