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Re: Yorkist Princesses
« Reply #30 on: November 03, 2006, 09:28:29 AM »
Yup, Strickland's moralising on Edward II and Isabella is pretty amusing.   ;)  Funnily enough, she's pretty lenient to Piers Gaveston - she calls him 'the Adonis of the English court' and makes approving comments on his jousting ability and quick wit.  I think she fancied him.   :D

Abebooks has all the Strickland and Green volumes for a mere £2000, or £2400... :o
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Re: Yorkist Princesses
« Reply #31 on: November 03, 2006, 10:12:18 AM »
Yep, that price sounds about right. ;D

Piers Gaveston's jousting ability.... the mind boggles ;D
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Re: Yorkist Princesses
« Reply #32 on: April 23, 2007, 05:47:27 PM »
The problem is there is very little info out there about these ladies and I am sure they had fascinating lives. I haven't given up on my books yet but I have found little more than you have already posted Liam :-\

That's what sucks about history . . . you never now for sure.  ???

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Re: Yorkist Princesses
« Reply #33 on: April 24, 2007, 06:04:45 PM »
That's what's good about history! ;D
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Re: Yorkist Princesses
« Reply #34 on: April 26, 2007, 08:50:38 PM »
    • Bridget (1480-1517). She became a nun, and maintained a correspondance with her sister the Queen, which I think is strange, since they probably barely new each other.



    Elizabeth of York probably did that because Bridget was her sister of course. They maybe didn't know each other well, but if your related to someone, especially someone like your sister, you should maintain correspondance with you sibling. Sisters are usually very close.

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    Re: Yorkist Princesses
    « Reply #35 on: April 27, 2007, 11:17:14 AM »
      • Bridget (1480-1517). She became a nun, and maintained a correspondance with her sister the Queen, which I think is strange, since they probably barely new each other.



      Elizabeth of York probably did that because Bridget was her sister of course. They maybe didn't know each other well, but if your related to someone, especially someone like your sister, you should maintain correspondance with you sibling. Sisters are usually very close.

      Not always! ;) And besides, 'family' back then didn't mean as much as it means now![/list]
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      « Reply #36 on: April 27, 2007, 06:45:39 PM »
      Yes, I do agree about that (ex. Mary I and Elizabeth Tudor)  but sisters should always remain in contact with each other and it usually seems as if they have to. Plus, Bridget and Elizabeth both had the same parents. Sorry . . .  it's something I cannot explain.

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      « Reply #37 on: May 01, 2007, 06:25:06 PM »
      I had always thought that maybe Bridget was mentally retarded, which was why she was consigned to a convent. Maybe someone can tell us more? I believe she was at Dartford, which is not a million miles from her sister's palace at Greenwich. Were there any visits?
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      Re: Yorkist Princesses
      « Reply #38 on: May 02, 2007, 03:51:53 AM »
      Dartford was the only house of Dominican nuns in England and it was one of the most important nunneries in terms of size, income and resident nuns. It could be that Bridget was retarded- as usual there is little information out there. On the other hand, it wasn't that unusual to "donate" a royal child to God, Bridget's nephew,as second son, was being prepared for a life in the church...and he became Henry VIII ! Edward and Elizabeth certainly had plenty of children- particularly daughters, so maybe they thought they could "spare" one daughter for the religious life.
      Looking at primary sources, she figures in the Wardrobe Accounts of the reign of Richard III (she got a pillow and a length of Fustian).
      On 6th July 1502, money was paid by her sister, Elizabeth of York, to the Abbess of Dartford towards the charges of "Lady Bridget". In September, a person was paid for going from Windsor to Dartford, to Lady Bridget, with a message from Elizabeth. So it does seem they kept in touch. As for visits, I can find no record although it would apper that Bridget spent some time in  the Sanctuary of Westminster with her mother and sisters. Also, on the Tuesday following the funeral of Elizabeth Woodville,Anne, Catherine and Bridget arrived at Windsor by water and took part in ceremonies in the chapel.
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      Re: Yorkist Princesses
      « Reply #39 on: May 02, 2007, 10:06:03 AM »
      Elizabeth of York's death must've been pretty bad news for her surviving sisters (just Bridget and Katherine?). Apart from the obvious sense of personal loss, it removed a powerful and benevolent 'protector', especially in money matters - I doubt they got much out of Henry VII.  :-\
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      « Reply #40 on: May 03, 2007, 03:15:19 PM »
      I agree. How old was Elizabeth when she died, anyway? I'm sorry. I don't like math  ;)

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      Re: Yorkist Princesses
      « Reply #41 on: May 03, 2007, 03:30:26 PM »
      She was 37 (counting on my fingers with my tongue sticking out) ;D
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      Re: Yorkist Princesses
      « Reply #42 on: May 03, 2007, 05:12:59 PM »
      Didn't she die on her birthday? Or her last child was born on her birthday, or something?
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      Re: Yorkist Princesses
      « Reply #43 on: May 04, 2007, 01:35:11 AM »
      That's right, 11th February, birthday and death day.
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      Re: Yorkist Princesses
      « Reply #44 on: May 05, 2007, 06:02:07 PM »
      Back to Bridget.... she was also 37 when she died, but a relic from an earlier dynasty. She must have been two when her father died and 12 when her mother died. Could it be that Henry VII was responsible for consigning her to the convent?
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