Grand Duke Konstantin N. and Grand Duchess Alexandra Iosifovna

[Svetabel]

How was her relationship with Minny? Did they get along well ?

GD Alexandra I. was not in a great favour in the family of Alexander III, but he and his wife Empress Maria Fedorovna felt sorry for GDss' troubled marriage when her husband neglected her.

[Vecchiolarry]

Hi Luc,

While it was common knowledge that Alexander III did not get along with his uncle, Constantine Nicholaiovich, Maria Feodorovna and Alexandra Iosefovna were great allies.
AI was the top ranking Grand Duchess to welcome Dagmar to Russia and they kept up an affectionate correspondence & company over the years.
While at Gatchina, MF often visited AI at Pavlovsk and vice-versa.
MF was instremental in arranging AI's daughter, Olga, marrying her brother, King George of Greece..

In fact, MF, AI, Mavra and Queen Olga were a sort of cliche in the Russian Court to counter the Vladimirs.
Maria Feodorovna's favourite Romanov was her brother-in-law, GD Alexei Alexandrovich, and he too was a pet of Alexandra Iosefovna.

Larry

[Svetabel]

Hi Luc,

While it was common knowledge that Alexander III did not get along with his uncle, Constantine Nicholaiovich, Maria Feodorovna and Alexandra Iosefovna were great allies.
AI was the top ranking Grand Duchess to welcome Dagmar to Russia and they kept up an affectionate correspondence & company over the years.

GDss AI politicly fed vanity to the Imperial Family, she was able to create a good image of herself in their eyes so they were friends but not the great ones as A III and MF were with Queen Olga of Greece.

[Luc]

Hi Luc,

While it was common knowledge that Alexander III did not get along with his uncle, Constantine Nicholaiovich, Maria Feodorovna and Alexandra Iosefovna were great allies.
AI was the top ranking Grand Duchess to welcome Dagmar to Russia and they kept up an affectionate correspondence & company over the years.
While at Gatchina, MF often visited AI at Pavlovsk and vice-versa.
MF was instremental in arranging AI's daughter, Olga, marrying her brother, King George of Greece..

In fact, MF, AI, Mavra and Queen Olga were a sort of cliche in the Russian Court to counter the Vladimirs.
Maria Feodorovna's favourite Romanov was her brother-in-law, GD Alexei Alexandrovich, and he too was a pet of Alexandra Iosefovna.

Larry

Thank you Larry and Svetabel. I read that most members of the Konstantinovichi branch were liberal in politics.
 But in the book The Camera and the Tsars they write:
"Where in the world have you, little rogue, ever learned to intrigue so well," the tsarevna's father, king Christian IX of Denmark, asked her, "since you must have worked hard against your uncle and aunt, who were previously decided against a match of this kind."

Were Olga's parents at first against this engagement ?

[Vecchiolarry]

Hello Luc,

Constantine was against the marriage at first and vetoed it outright.  Probably because of Olga's young age.
But, George was very charming and level-headed and this eventually brought Constantine around.
I can imagine that Alexandra would have been pleased and proud that her daughter would become a Queen;  and everybody would be content that Russia and Greece would be stronger allied politically and through Orthodoxy...

George was Maria Feodorovna's favourite brother and, as Svetabel has written, MF and Queen Olga were great friends to the end of their lives.
I don't think Alexander III and Constantine were ever friends.  I have read that Constantine ridiculed Alexander in his youth and called him an oaff and stupid, so I can imagine that when A III became Czar, Constantine knew his goose was cooked!!!

Larry

[carl fraley]

Does anyone know if HIH Grand Duchess Alexandra Iosifovna of Russia ever visited Greece?  I have never heard of any trip by her or any of her children, but from what I have ready all of the Constantanovichi were very close.. Surely sine HM Queen Olga was queen of Greece for 50 years, someone had to visit here from among her siblings or mother

[Valmont]

But that is a very good question. As a mother, I infer she mighth have visit her daugther, but I have not read anything about her visiting Greece. It never crossed my mind. Did she ever??

Arturo Vega-Llausás

[Stefan22]

She has. I have the book "Die große Parade" (The big Parade) by J+ürg Stuker,. It describes the life of his relative Robert Stuker who was first teacher of the Princes Amdrew and Christophor and later Chamberlain at the greek royal Court and there a Visit of Grand Duchess Alexandra is described.

[Svetabel]

She has. I have the book "Die große Parade" (The big Parade) by J+ürg Stuker,. It describes the life of his relative Robert Stuker who was first teacher of the Princes Amdrew and Christophor and later Chamberlain at the greek royal Court and there a Visit of Grand Duchess Alexandra is described.

And what year she had been in Greece? I still can't find an exact date.

[Stefan22]

She has. I have the book "Die große Parade" (The big Parade) by J+ürg Stuker,. It describes the life of his relative Robert Stuker who was first teacher of the Princes Amdrew and Christophor and later Chamberlain at the greek royal Court and there a Visit of Grand Duchess Alexandra is described.

And what year she had been in Greece? I still can't find an exact date.

Sorry it is not mentioned when she was there.

[Maria_Pavlovna]

Whom in this photo? i know it the Konstantinovich family, but who is who?

[Svetabel]

Sitting from left to right: GD Konstantin K., GDss Olga Kosntantinovna, her future spouse King George of Greece, GDss Alexandra Iosifovna. GD Dmitriy K. and GD Vyacheslav K. are in front of her. Standinf behind GDss Olga is GD Nikolai K.

[Maria_Pavlovna]

Thank you Sveta!

[royalboy202]

Would anyone know if AI was close to her Bavarian cousins?  Her fathers sister Theresa married King Ludwig I in 1810 and they had 9 children.

[Svetabel]

Would anyone know if AI was close to her Bavarian cousins?  Her fathers sister Theresa married King Ludwig I in 1810 and they had 9 children.

According to GD Konstantin N.'s diaries they (Grand Duke and his spouse AI) visited their numerous relatives (and the Bavarians as well) in Germany during their trips, but he doesn't mention any special info about relationship of his spouse and the Wittelsbachs. Probably the visits (and relationship) was official and formal.