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Re: Andrew, Duke of York
« Reply #105 on: August 08, 2010, 12:54:12 PM »
Bankers- sane?

LOL, Robert - I was also about to write something about oxymorons...:-)
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Re: Andrew, Duke of York
« Reply #106 on: August 08, 2010, 04:39:55 PM »
And if the Queen is daft enough to clear that debt, another is waiting in the wings.



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« Reply #109 on: August 09, 2010, 11:01:37 PM »
For me, his actions speak loudly of a deliberate display perhaps to distance himself from Sarah, Duchess of York. I mean, he usually vacations with her in Marabella, Spain each year at this time and either he makes a point of staying out the press when he's there or the press doesn't find Andrew and Sarah interesting enough to pursue. Perhaps it was decided to make a public "show" with a casual public fling. I don't know why I feel this way...I just do.

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« Reply #110 on: August 09, 2010, 11:12:57 PM »
You possibly may have something here.  However, I will be more inclined to believe it when Sarah finds accommodation of her own that she actually PAYS for on her own.

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« Reply #111 on: August 10, 2010, 05:15:20 AM »
Prince Andrew is just following his libidinous instincts and i wouldn't read any more into it than that.

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« Reply #112 on: August 10, 2010, 08:06:25 AM »
Well he is descended after al from Edward VII: someone has to keep up the family traditions.

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« Reply #113 on: August 10, 2010, 11:50:10 AM »
And if the Queen is daft enough to clear that debt, another is waiting in the wings.
The Queen wont be able to keep finding such huge sums...and Sarah has been bailed out more than enough already!

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« Reply #114 on: August 10, 2010, 12:56:27 PM »
My feeling is that if the Queen went into Coutts and said I need an overdraft of £5 million, they wouldnt ask for security.

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« Reply #115 on: August 11, 2010, 01:09:17 AM »
My feeling is that if the Queen went into Coutts and said I need an overdraft of £5 million, they wouldnt ask for security.
Im sure they wouldnt but why would she...especially to help someone who never learns and could spend all the Queen had 10 times over and still never learn!

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« Reply #116 on: August 11, 2010, 01:25:48 AM »
Possibly because she has a soft spot for Prince Andrew and he has a soft spot for Fergie

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« Reply #117 on: August 11, 2010, 04:16:10 AM »
Possibly because she has a soft spot for Prince Andrew and he has a soft spot for Fergie
I'm sure there is something in that...I also think that although (to say the least) Fergie is exasperating...she has never had a malicious side like Diana could have...and the Queen must realise that.

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« Reply #118 on: August 11, 2010, 04:20:43 AM »
Well i am sure she understands that if she displayed malicious behaviour she was be dead.  Her conduct is bad enough and her only defence seems to be naivete.

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Re: Andrew, Duke of York
« Reply #119 on: December 13, 2010, 10:30:39 AM »
Lost in all the big revelations from WikiLeaks is this tidbit about Prince Andrew:

"Back in 2008, the U.S. ambassador in the central Asian state of Kyrgyzstan, Tatiana Gfoeller, was invited to lunch with Prince Andrew, Duke of York, who was in the country to promote British interests. After the encounter, she observed in a cable: "Astonishingly candid, the discussion at times verged on the rude (from the British side)." When the conversation turned to the problem of corruption, one businessman said that working in Kyrgyzstan was "like doing business in the Yukon" in the 19th century, "i.e. only those willing to participate in local corrupt practices are able to make any money." "At this point the Duke of York laughed uproariously, saying that: 'All of this sounds exactly like France.'"

At another point, according to Ambassador Gfoeller, "the prince mused that outsiders could do little to change the culture of corruption here. 'They themselves have to have a change of heart. Just like you have to cure yourself of anorexia. No one else can do it for you.'" Referring to his coming meeting with the Kyrgyz prime minister, Prince Andrew seemed exasperated. "With a mock groan, the Duke of York then exclaimed: 'My God, what am I supposed to tell these people?!'"

The prince also addressed Russian influence in central Asia, stating that "the United Kingdom, Western Europe (and by extension you Americans, too) were now back in the thick of playing the Great Game. More animated than ever, he stated cockily: 'And this time we aim to win!' ""The Great Game" originally referred to the 19th century struggle between Britain and Russia for control of central Asia.The cable continued that Prince Andrew indicated he had little patience for the media interfering in the negotiation of business deals, condemning "these (expletive) journalists, especially from the National Guardian, who poke their noses everywhere."

According to the ambassador's account, the prince also "railed at British anti-corruption investigators, who had had the 'idiocy' of almost scuttling the Al-Yamama deal with Saudi Arabia." That deal was a multibillion-dollar defense contract between BAE Systems and the Saudi government that became the target of a U.K. Serious Fraud Office corruption inquiry.) Warming to her theme, Ambassador Gfoeller continues: "He then capped this off with a zinger: castigating 'our stupid (sic) British and American governments which plan at best for 10 years whereas people in this part of the world plan for centuries.'"

But she saves perhaps the best for last, referring to Prince Andrew's "unmitigated patriotic fervor." One British guest at the lunch had noted that despite the might of the American economy, British investment in Kyrgyzstan was of a similar magnitude."Snapped the Duke: 'No surprise there. The Americans don't understand geography. Never have. In the U.K., we have the best geography teachers in the world!'"

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