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Re: Three Kings at War - Documentary
« Reply #30 on: January 18, 2014, 11:20:08 AM »
Unlike Nicholas II, where basically what he said went, no questions asked.

Speaking of autocratic orders and asylum, did NII ever do a Putin (with regard to Snowden) and grant asylum to someone who was unpopular in Western Europe? (Pro-Slav Austrian leaders who were considered traitors during WW1, like Masaryk, would be candidates, but of course anyone advocating national self-determination was persona non grata in Tsarist Russia ("think of the Poles, and the Finns and all the other peoples who don't yet know they are a nation!").
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Re: Three Kings at War - Documentary
« Reply #31 on: January 19, 2014, 10:12:01 AM »
I wonder why not considering Canada or some other country other than England though ... it could be the best solution to the problem of bad reputation of the Imperial Family in the UK.
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Re: Three Kings at War - Documentary
« Reply #32 on: January 20, 2014, 04:31:38 PM »
Canada may have had the same attitude towards the IF as did her mother country. They had the same sovereign, after all, though not the same Prime Ministers. In any case, Canada would have been too great a reach, geographically as well as politically.

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Re: Three Kings at War - Documentary
« Reply #33 on: January 21, 2014, 11:35:26 AM »
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In any case, Canada would have been too great a reach, geographically as well as politically.


Would it?  If they could get to the Bearing Strait, they could cross over, go through Alaska, and be here in Canada.
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« Reply #34 on: January 21, 2014, 12:30:40 PM »
Probably more realistic to go to Vladivostock via the Trans-Siberian railway, then by sea to San Francisco, via Japan. This was the route by which Pince and Princess Cantacuzene sent their children to the Princess's American parents in the summer of 1917. It took a great deal of time and effort to get the necessary documentation, but the actual journey went entirely smoothly.

Of course, the young Cantacuzenes were half-American, and accompanied by their British tutor, at a time when Britain and the US were allies and Japan favourably disposed, so once they reached Vladivostock everything was easy.

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« Reply #35 on: January 21, 2014, 04:35:43 PM »
I suppose the I.F. could have done the same.  It took the revolution time to spread across all of Russia (no modern means of travel back then).
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« Reply #36 on: January 21, 2014, 04:41:30 PM »
It took the revolution time to spread across all of Russia (no modern means of travel back then).

You don't count train travel and telegraph as fast and modern? But the news probably reached Vladivostok before it reached the peasants in more remote regions of European Russia.
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Берёзы севера мне милы,—
Их грустный, опущённый вид,
Как речь безмолвная могилы,
Горячку сердца холодит.

(Афанасий Фет: «Ивы и берёзы», 1843 / 1856)

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Re: Three Kings at War - Documentary
« Reply #37 on: January 22, 2014, 03:21:38 AM »
The telegraph could pass news within a matter of minutes,  though the speed of a particular message would depend on its priority and how busy the telegraph office was. Long-distance travel was much slower than today - from St Petersburg to Vladivostock via the Trans-Siberian still takes over a week.

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Re: Three Kings at War - Documentary
« Reply #38 on: January 22, 2014, 11:22:23 AM »
Of course, I was comparing them to todays travel and communications.
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« Reply #39 on: January 22, 2014, 12:49:37 PM »
As I thought.