Wrede

[Marc]

Hi,I was reading somewhere that all members of this family bear the title Fürst/Fürstin von Wrede,much unlike some other families where just the head of the family is Fürst and other mambers are prinz/prinzessin or graf/gräfin...Could this be considered higher or not?I am also interested in the one fact:was this family considered as mediatized or no(they married equally into some old families such as Habsburg,Oettingen-Oettingen,Lobkowicz,Arenberg,Solms-Braunfels)?And if anyone knows something about the family background and some interesting members it would be great...

[ipflo]

hi,

The family descends from prince Carl Philipp von Wrede. As far as I know only the head of the family bears the title Fuerst and are the other family members only prince or princess.

You can find a short biography on prince Carl Philipp von Wrede on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Philipp_von_Wrede

Prince Karl Philipp von Wrede (April 29, 1767 – December 12, 1838), Bavarian field-marshal, was born at Heidelberg [1], and educated for the career of a civil official under the Palatinate government, but on the outbreak of the campaign of 1799 he raised a volunteer corps in the Palatinate and was made its colonel. This corps excited the mirth of the well-drilled Austrians with whom it served, but its colonel soon brought it into a good condition, and it distinguished itself during Kray's retreat on Ulm. At the Battle of Hohenlinden (1800) Wrede commanded one of the Palatinate infantry brigades with credit, and after the peace of Lunéville he was made lieutenant-general in the Bavarian army, which was entering upon a period of reforms. Wrede soon made himself very popular, and distinguished himself in opposing the Austrian invasions of 1805 and 1809.

The Bavarians were for several years the active allies of Napoleon, and Wrede led the Bavarian corps that aided Napoleon’s victory at Wagram in 1809. Just before the Battle of Leipzig (1813) he negotiated the Treaty of Ried between Austria and Bavaria and fought with the allies against Napoleon. After Leipzig, he tried to block the French escape at Hanau but was beaten by Napoleon. In 1814 he was created prince and field marshal, Wrede represented Bavaria at the Congress of Vienna.


The main residence of the princes was always the Ellingen castle in Bavaria, which was a present by the Bavarian king Max I:

http://www.schloesser.bayern.de/englisch/palace/objects/ellingen.htm

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/thumb/6/67/Schloss_Ellingen.jpg/450px-Schloss_Ellingen.jpg


ipflo

[Marc]

This palace looks beautiful although I think that the Prince Karl von Wrede lived in another castle!I was wondering about their titles and their ''position'' among all these all families...and if you look the Almanach de Gotha online you will see that it is written that ALL members bear the titles Fürst and Fürstin.That is why I asked this question....

[ipflo]

Which other castle do you mean?

[ipflo]

No sorry, you have right the Wrede family is an exception, all members bear the title Fürst. It is comparable to the Oldenburgs and the Mecklenburgs, where all members are Herzog. Now the interesting question is, why is there an exception, and that I do not know (yet).

[ipflo]

The only other castles I could find were Jahgdschloss Sandsee in Markt Pleinfeld, where the family nowadays lives. They received this castle together with Ellingen. Further they owned Schloss Fantaisie near Bayreuth from the 1920s till around 1938, when they were forced to sell the castle to the Nazi's.

[Marc]

Yes,it is Sansee schloß,I tried to find some pictures of him but nothing...

[Eurohistory]

Fürst Wrede and his son are delightful people.  The wife of the Fürst's son is absolutely stunning, a Hungarian noblewoman by birth, simply beautiful.

Arturo Beéche

[dolgoruky18]

Maybe this message will nver be read, but I knew the family of Baron Wrede af Alimar in Finland in the 1980s and stayed at their house, "Wredeby". They were extremely kind to me. The Baron was deeply connected with aircraft. His wife told me that they were in contact with Wredes all over the world and had hosted and been guests at very large family reunions.

[Marc]

As far as I know there are many branches-in Sweden-Count Fabian von Wrede etc.,Finland,Germany and many other countries....

[antti]

The Wrede family is very well known and respected family in Finland.

http://www.genealogia.fi/litt/kirj3qe.htm