Has your view changed [since the remains were found]?

[helenazar]

... the novel "The Last Duchess" by Sharon Stewart ...

Do you know where to find this book? It's not on Amazon. Thanks!

[aleksandr pavlovich]

Attention:  NAOTMAA Fan     At the time you post a reply to Helen A's. request for book information, may I again ask you to post the title, publisher and date of publication of the Faberge book to which you referred in your post# 19, March 22, 2008, "Rare Pictures."  You described it as a "gargantuan" book that was "gifted" to you.  You posted illustrations that depicted the Emperor Nicholas II and Empress Alexandra F. that were said to have been painted by Faberge (!!!) and a subsequent illustration of a heading of a chapter "Nicholas II."  Your post seemed to imply that these illustrations were from the same book. I commented at the time that this appears to be a quite "different" book on Faberge than is generally seen.  I would like to have the pertinent information of this book so that I might add it to a resource list on Faberge that I suppy from time to time for those who are interested.  You may post the information here or under an appropriate "Faberge" category heading, as I am certain that others will be interested.   Thank you. AP

[Joyann1]

i think many people's view will change now the dna is confirmed.

and maby they all go for marie now instead of anastasia

If a persons "admiration" for Anastasia is changed because of the fact that she is finally accounted for, then they really didn't like her in the first place.

And I think you're missing the point in this. They are all found now. There won't be any more "survivor" things. Notice how all the papers say, "Romanov Mystery Finally Solved", etc.. It's over now. Anyone who claims it to be otherwise won't be payed any attention to.
(You don't even know if Maria is the missing sister. It's more likely to be Anastasia in my opinion. There's nothing at all that points to it being Maria except for the Russian's not wanting to look at the evidence again. Everyone else, including evidence, says Anastasia!)
Thank God it's over.

But then there's the fact that none of the skeletons had the kind of immature bone development you would find in a 17 year old, but not in a 19 year old.

Honestly now, I don't know how many times I've posted the same facts over and over again, but for the benefit of anyone who's interested: here I go again. First of all, I feel Holly's got it right that the new female body is Anastasia. Anyone who has actually got off of their posteriors and actually read a book on the remains and isn't some idiosyncratic Anna Anderson supporter will have deduced that Anastasia is the missing daughter buried with Alexei. a) The body said to have been buried by Yurovsky separately with Alexei (with an attempt to be burned) was thought to be Anna Demidova-- the plump lady''s maid--Anastasia was about the same physical match to her at the time of her death (short, stout, plump)--Maria had thinned out like Olga and Tatiana and was, if not the tallest, tall. b)The original skeleton that was "Anastasia" had spinal fusions that only appear on adolescents older than 18-- Anastasia had only just turned 17 a month before her death whilst Maria was 19. c) All of the wounds inflicted on the body from the original grave correlate to those Maria is said--by eyewitnesses--to have suffered (shattered femur bone, Maria was seen to have collapsed while hurling herself at the backdoor when shot in the thigh, etc.) d) All of the faces had been smashed in by rifle butts so no one could rightly identify the women from each other (hence Yurovsky identifying one of the girls as the maid).

I'm sure someone could come up with little tid bits of information to object my thoughts, but this is all from what I've read up from the scientists themselves. Regardless, they're all seemingly accounted for.

First of all You always agree with holly

Second you sais '' b)The original skeleton that was "Anastasia" had spinal fusions that only appear on adolescents older than 18-- Anastasia had only just turned 17 a month before her death whilst Maria was 19. ''

so your saying here that the person found in the first grave had future's of an 18+ but they also found a body in the second grave and her future's were 18+ to.

And about the demidova matter it could be maria or anastasia maby we  never know.

Yes many evidence points to anastasia but there is also enough evidence pointing towards marie

joyann

[Joyann1]

... the novel "The Last Duchess" by Sharon Stewart ...

Do you know where to find this book? It's not on Amazon. Thanks!

Beneath the Crown: The Last Duchess

http://www.amazon.ca/Beneath-Crown-Duchess-Sharon-Stewart/dp/0439961017 ( canada )

only place i could find

[StevenL]

he original skeleton that was "Anastasia" had spinal fusions that only appear on adolescents older than 18-- Anastasia had only just turned 17 a month before her death whilst Maria was 19. ''
so your saying here that the person found in the first grave had future's of an 18+ but they also found a body in the second grave and her future's were 18+ to.
And about the demidova matter it could be maria or anastasia maby we  never know.

Yes many evidence points to anastasia but there is also enough evidence pointing towards marie

There is no compelling evidence at all that the skeleton of a girl barely 17 was among the bones of the three young women laid to final rest in 1998.

However, there is compelling evidence that the three skeletons laid to rest in 1998 were of an age-range corresponding to Olga, Tatiana and Marie.

[aleksandr pavlovich]

NAOTMAA Fan, re My post #46:          I have received your personal message/apology.  Typically I do not accept personal messages, but I have reviewed yours.  I had asked that you post your source information on your Faberge book under this or, more likely, a relavent heading, so as not to be off-topic.  But perhaps you didn't understand, if English is possibly not your native language, as I find your English expression profuse and rather "stilted."  (Or if English is indeed your mother tounge, perhaps this affected way of writing is humorously an alternative persona for you?)  Regardless, at the risk of misquoting you, I ask that you condense and post the basics of your response "in the open," so that others  seeking Faberge source material will have access to the same relavent information for their list/s, that is to say: title of your Faberge book, author, publisher and date of publication.   Thank you for your co-operation.  AP

[Holly]

(Aleksandr Pavlovich, please stop posting off-topic things. If NAOTMAA Fan doesn't want to share about his book then leave him alone. He doesn't have to do anything for anyone; give up.)

He doesn't "always agree with me". We just happen to share the same views when it comes to the Romanovs. Just like a lot of other people would agree with me. The fact that he agrees has nothing to do with the validity of it. There is more evidence pointing to it being Anastasia than Maria. I can't think of one piece of evidence that points to Maria. If there actually is, let me know.

[aleksandr pavlovich]

(Thank you, Holly (?), for your courteous and concise contribution to my posting for someone else.  It is obvious that my point was clear.  Nothing further.   Regards,  AP)

[NAOTMAA Fan]

Thank you for your considerate concern Holly, but I have relayed on the Rare Pictures thread in Having Fun the information Aleksandr Pavlovich so amorously desired.
In regards to my native tongue, it is in fact English. It's a funny question since my entire family is British! But you were not to have known anything so personal and I digress. I apologize in advance to all who find my use of vocabulary pretentious or artificial.

And whether or not Holly and myself share endless similarities in thought is of no affect to the outcome of what she or myself have to say on this forum. We know each other very personally on the basis that we have so many ideas and thoughts in common and have no problem working together to declare our own opinions. Regardless of our natural affinity,  what we have to say here should not come under the scrupulous attention and cynical analysis of those here, believing we act as one counteractive force. Our beliefs are our own and I would thank all to respect as much, and not revert to such immature acts as name calling and branding.

It is my own opinion based solely on what I have gathered that Anastasia should have been the missing daughter with Alexei. What you feel to be the truth is entirely based on what you yourselves have gathered on this topic. I don't think it's of any fair proportions to oust one another and gain any form of dominance on the matter. Whomever the skeletons true identity should be is left solely for scientific thought and procedure to say, and until then everything is mere speculation.