A List - Claimant's Name/History/Fate

[AGRBear]

Thread dealing with Michael Goleniewski is:

http://hydrogen.pallasweb.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=loonies;action=display;num=1114533533;start=0#1

AGRBear

[AGRBear]

Thread dealing with Marga Boodts:
http://hydrogen.pallasweb.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=anastasia;action=display;num=1115774385

[RealAnastasia]

Sorry...I didn't know there was a "Pretender List" in the "Imperial Claimants Post Here" Forum, started by Bear. So, when I have the infos about the two "Tatianas" I'll post them here. Now I'll add the name of the "Russian Alexei Pretender". The source is Radzinsky's book "The Last Tsar" , so I don't know what to think about it.

  The claimant was named Filipp Grigorievich Semionov, and appeared for the first time in the psychiatrical hospital of Petrozavodsk. He had tryed to help a lady in a prisonner camp and when the guards come to avoid him to do so, he had an attack.  So, they send him to the hospital. It was in 1948.

  When Semionov arrive to the hospital he had a psychotic attack, was very nervous, moving in all directions, and crying swears to a certain "Belovorodov". After a while, he became quiet, and when the doctors and nurses wanted to know ore things about him, he revealed to them that he was born in 1904 in St. Petesburg. They noticed that his way of talking was much like the high St. Petesburg class in the Tsar's days. He know many details about noble families in the Old Russia, and of course a lot of little details about Romanov family. Finally, Semionov "confessed" :he was the Tsarevitch Alexei. He told how he was survived to the Ekaterinburg massacre. He was sitting near his "father", and when shots started, Nicholas put his "son" head over his chest, for avoid him to see what was to happen. "Alexei" didn't hear what Yurovsky was saying . He only hear the shots. He was wounded in the bottom, and he lost conscience, falling over some of his family's bodies.  When he awake, he was out the cellar, for a guy was taking care of him.

  In this point, there is no ore explanation about what happened in the cellar, but Radzinsky explains that Semionov got into some troubles that gets him prisonner in a camp. And after it, he was send to the psychiatric. He was always saying that "Belovorodov" knew about his secret and was always frightening him.

   Radzinsky stands that all the doctors there and the nurses believed his story, and much more when they discoveres that the "tsarevitch" suffered from a very rebell"Haematuria"and had chriptorchidia, just like Alexei. But they knew that they couldn't recognize him , for it would be a trouble with the authorities for the prisonner. A psychiatre from Leningrad examine him in 1949, and said that was better for him to go to a psychiatric institut for a while. Semionov agreed with that, for he didn't want to do public his claim; he didn't want trouble for him, nor for people who was interested about him. After it, he dissapeared in the life. He has studied economie in Baku, and he worked as economist in Central Asia. His wife was also named...Asia.

   As for his physical appareance he had thin , long face, blue "or gray" prominent eyes, he had a large forehead, and even if he was almost bald, his few hairs were chestnut, with a little gray in them. He reminded the doctors and nurses the Tsar Nicholas II, but also Nicholas I...

  And I don't know any more about him...Even less a pic from him. I read in Peter Kurth's site that Radzinsky had some Semionov photos. It would be nice to know them!

   RealAnastasia.

[AGRBear]

I have always been drawn to this particular story about Filipp Grigorievich Semionov and have always wanted to know more about him.

I certainly wish we could see the photographs of him.

Why hasn't Radzinsky released the photographs?  Is he writing another book about Semionov?

By the way, RealAnastasia, this thread is just about a list.  Please, do start a thread on Seminov.  I just wanted you to be aware of  this list thread.  I certainly wasn't trying to be "bossy" and tell you what you can or cannot post on any thread.  Sorry if I sounded like I was.  

AGRBear

[AGRBear]

I have some articles on this "Last Anastasia" that I saved a sometime in '02.

PSEUDO-ANASTASIA COMES TO MOSCOW WITH 1 TRILLION DOLLARS AND DISTEMPER

An unusual guest has visited Moscow. 101-year-old Natalia Petrovna Bilikhodze, possessor of 1-trillion-dollar fortune held a press conference in Moscow, at which she said she was the great princess Anastasia, the daughter of last Russian tsar Nikoai II, who survived the shooting of the tsar's family.

The story is not new. At the moment, the world knows about 30 great princesses Anastasia. To examine these tsar's daughters, the Geneva bank created an identification service, though nobody of the former candidates could pass the exam. Some of them even could not speak Russian, while explaining this with a hard stress, as a result of which they had completely forgotten the mother language.

Though, not only living pseudo-Anastasias pretend on being heirs of Russian throne, but also descendants of the late pseudo-Anastasias. For example, some "patriotic" forces promote now crown prince Anatoly, the son of princess Anastasia as if shot in 1936. Stressing, that by participating in all state actions the crown prince must strengthen the power and recognition, the "patriots" demand to officially acknowledge the son of the great princess. Of course, this story cannot do without political intrigues.

Crown prince Anatoly addressed to Vladimir Putin with a request about reburial of Anastasia Romanova and her daughter in tsar's burial-vault, after exhumation and genetic analysis, though Putin left this request without answer. According to Anatoly, & The crown prince's mother lies in cemetery of the town Axai, Rostov Region, under the inscription & Anastasia Yakovlevna Ionova.& While next to her, there is the grave of her daughter, Alexandra Vladimirovna Ionova, born in 1935. Their place in the tsar's burial-vault is occupied by false emperor in exile, great prince Vladimir Kirillovich Romanov, placed there according to Yeltsin's order. Therefore, Yeltsin had acknowledged the imposter to be Russian emperor with the right to hand over the throne to his grand-son Georgy.

Why namely great princess Anastasia is so popular among people who would like to return to Russia as ruling family?
The question is that the complicated story of the royal family annihilation holds back where the remains of the killed great princess and of crown prince Alexis are.

In the burial place officially acknowledged to be that one of the tsar's family and later carried to the tsar's burial-vault in St Petersburg, there were no remains of Alexis and of a great princesses, probably, of Maria. Though, the skeleton of great princess Anastasia turned out to belong to a 171-cm-tall person, while Anastasia was only 158 cm tall.

Moreover, after the remains were reburied, the society and the scientists had different opinions. Many scientists are inclined to believe that the remains have been annihilated with sulphuric acid and fire.

Within all these years after the tsar's family execution, the name of Anastasia was covered with some mystic haze. According to Natalia Bilikhodze, Anastasia was not shot. She has been living in Georgia under the name Natalia Bilikhodze. In Georgia, she got married. Only in 1995, she started to bustle about returning to her the true name. Now, Russian citizen Anastasia Nikolaevna Romanova, spite her declining years, prepares herself for returning to Russia and for returning to Russia the great inheritance of her family.

According to the version of crown prince Anatoly, great princess Anastasia and her brother Alexis really survived after the shooting of the family in Yekaterinburg and were concealed by Ural monarchists. The fate of crown prince Alexis is not known. Probably, he did not live long and was buried somewhere in Northern Urals under a false name.

The saviours showed Anastasia to ataman Dutov, the firm monarchist, who had to join the republican, admiral Kolchak, though they did not show her to Sokolov, investigator of the Kolchak army's prosecuting office, because they considered the White Guard to be betrayers of the Tsar and Motherland, who had allowed to Bolsheviks to kill the tsar's family and its devoted servants.

While retreating to Siberia, ataman Dutov could not take Anastasia, because the great princess was physically weak. Moreover, her being among Kolcha's soldiers was dangerous for her, for she could become the mother of a new crown prince.

Later, Anastasia was secretly handed over to the wife of People's Commissar Semen Budenny, Don Cossack woman and hereditary noble woman Ksenia Karetnikova, and sent to her parents as her sister Anastasia as if found after the civil war. Therefore, great princess brought up by Cossack nurse maids, became Cossack woman Anastasia Karetnikova, while remaining hereditary noble woman.

The Soviet power did not disturb Anastasia till she gave birth to Anatoly, next crown prince. Today's rulers, former communists, regard him as a crown prince and know everything about him. Though they prefer to keep silent, because otherwise they should legally acknowledge him as heir of Russian throne.

To keep secret the crown prince's birth, Anastasia was killed through an open window of her house in Axai settlement, August 1936, in presence of her child. Anatoly was not killed together with his mother, because in this case the death could be qualified as a suicide caused by mental disorder after the two children's birth.

According to one more version, during the shooting in the Ipatyev house cellar, the great princess was wounded and lost consciousness. She came to her senses already in the yard, where the bodies were prepared for transporting to the forest. Thanks to the darkness, the girl managed to creep away.
Some unknown well-wishers helped her to reach Romania.

In Bucharest, the great princess told her secret to workers of German embassy. Further events divided the society to supporters and opponents of the fascinating legend. To the first, Gleb Botkin, son of the killed together with the tsar's family doctor, belonged. The meeting of the two former playfellows took place in Munich suburb, in 1926. The great princess, who was now Anna Anderson, shocked Botkin with her similarity of appearance to the Anastasia and with her knowing details from the royal family life. In the house of Botkin, Anna Anderson met her future biographer who spent 20 years and many thousand dollars for a work which resulted in the book Anastasia, Lost Princess. The book became a bestseller and reported to the whole world the striking story of the tsar's daughter.

Though, there were many sceptics, too, whose position was shared by the head of Russian Imperial House, Vladimir Kirillovish. The suspicions grew, when the princess refused to meet with her grandmother, empress Maria Fedorovna, who was in Denmark at that time. Moreover, the princess kept refusing to speak Russian.

Later, Anna married an American millionaire and spent the rest of her life in Charlotsville, Virginia. The 83-year-old Mrs Anderson died in 1984. Her last will was to be cremated after her death.

Though, some meticulous investigators found a medical preparation from the probable princess body, which was kept in the laboratory of the hospital, where Anna Anderson was operated in 1979. The examination was carried out in Aldermaston, the main forensic laboratory of British Home Office, where bones of the Romanovs found in Yekaterinburg were examined. According to the specialists' conclusion, the woman was not great princess Anastasia, however the scientists could not be completely sure of it, as well as they could not be completely sure of the preparation really belonging to Anna Anderson.

Historians are sceptical about any member of the tsar's family having survived. Though, this time, the problem is much more serious. Natalia is backed by people who are ready to speak about returning the great fortune to Russia. This is why, there will be most likely many supporters of the new great princess indentity. But great princess Anastasia was canonized in Russia, together with other members of the tsar's family, as a martyr. If Natalia Bilikhodze is acknowledged being Anastasia, a split in the society will be inevitable, as well as serious shakes, both in religious and in secular life.

Since November 7, 1998, icon of Nikolai II, martyr tsar, started to produce chrism. Since that time, the icon has been travelling through Russia. One of these days, a group of believers brought the icon to the city of Tolyatti to make people confess to the regicide sin.

Yelena Kiseleva
PRAVDA.RU

Translated by Vera Solovieva

Read the original in Russian: http://pravda.ru/main/2002/06/11/42514.html

And:  --- cut --- Apartently my post was too long, so I'll have to post below this :-/

Continued next page.

[AGRBear]

Anastasia Romanova Is Still Living, Expert Argues (Izvestia)
Dr. Vladelen Sirotkin, a historian, reported on an Izvestia website forum that Anastasia Romanova is still alive
 
by George Watts
issued on 27.06.02
 
Dr. Vladelen Sirotkin, a historian, reported on an Izvestia website forum that Anastasia Romanova is still living. He maintains that genetics experts carried out 22 specialized studies. Besides that, photograph specialists also conducted comparative expertise studies of young Anastasia and the present elderly woman. Handwriting analyses were also carried out.
All these studies have confirmed that the youngest daughter of Czar Nicholas II, Anastasia (Nikolayevna) Romanova and a woman by the name of Natalia (Petrovna) Pelikhodze are one and the same person. The genetic expertise studies were carried out in Japan and Germany.
Besides that, Sirotkin maintains that there is documentary proof that Anastasia managed to escape from the murderer of the Czarist family - Yurovsky. There are archive documents that confirm that on the eve of the execution of the royal family, Anastasia's godfather, a former officer of the Czarist army by the name of Verkhovsky who then served in the dreaded Checka (secret police and forerunner of the KGB) managed to secretively get Anastasia out of the Ipatiyev house (where the Czarist family was held) and together with the young girl found a hiding place in Yekaterinburg.
Anastasia and her godfather headed to the south of Russia. They were in Rostov-on-Don and the Crimea. In 1919 they settled down in Abkhazia. Subsequently, Verkhovsky protected the young Anastasia in Abkhazia, in the Svanetia Mountains and Tbilisi.
However, Sirotkin points out, there were more than 300 reports and claims that Anastasia had died. In the period between 1918 and 2002 there were 32 reports about living Anastasias, and each of them had "died" 10 or 15 times. In reality, there were only two Anastasias. "Anastasia" Andersen, a Polish Jewess, who filed two law suits in the 20s-70s of the 20th century and Anastasia (Nikolayevna) Romanova (Pelikhodze).
It is interesting that the documents concerning the second law suit by Anastasia-the imposter (Andersen) have been placed in a strong box in Copenhagen and cannot be declassified until the end of the 21st century.

And here is a picture of "Anastasia" :

[AGRBear]

List:
1. * Nadezhda Ivanova Vasilyeva died  in 1971 in a asylum in Riga  
2.  Two women, real names uknown, however, know as Marie and Anastasia who died in the Urals in 1964  
3. Filipp G.  Semyonov who was said to have hemophilia and claimed to have been Alexis  
4. *Marga Boodts who lived in Italy and claimed to be Olga  
5. *Larisa Feodorovna Tudor died 1927 and buried in Kent, England who claimed she was Tatiana.  [See Marga Boodts]
6.  A man who  lived in Madrid as Prince Alexis d'Anjou whom some said was Alex Brimeyer.... died in Spain  
7. Man, name unknown, claimed to be Alexis and lived in Ulm, Germany  
8. *Alexi Tammet-Romanov died in 1977 in Vancover, British Columbia  
9.  Prince Alexis Romanov who died in 1986 and had lived in Scottsdale, Arizonia  
10.  Another Alexis was said to have been assassinated in Chicago by the KGB...  
11 & 12.   Two people who claimed to be Alexis and Anastasia met in USA and gained some attention by the press... names unknown  
13.  *Michael Goleniewski died in 1993 [1954?]..  
14. *Eugenia Smith lived in Illinois then R.I. and Massie said was still living in 1995  
15.  *Anna Anderson (Manahan), who always had the most attention, died 1984, and whom many believe was a Polish peasant
16.  *Natalia (Petrovna) Pelikhodze  [Belikhodze]

[AGRBear]

See the following web site on Alexie, an article by John Kenricks:

http://english.pravda.ru/letters/2002/06/17/30521.html

"You should be made aware of the following evidence (Please see photo files attached below) that is contained in an unresolved Alexei case that has *no* connection at all to this most recent claim made by 101-year-old Natalia Petrovna Bilikhodze"

[AGRBear]

Following quote:
http://all.newsfromrussia.com/main/2002/06/12/30188.html
>>The story is not new. At the moment, the world knows about 30 great princesses Anastasia. To examine these tsar-s daughters, the Geneva bank created an identification service, though nobody of the former candidates could pass the exam. Some of them even could not speak Russian, while explaining this with a hard stress, as a result of which they had completely forgotten the mother language.<<

Our list has fallen short of 30 Anastasia claimants.

And, I wonder that the Geneva bank knows that we don't know???

AGRBear

[RealAnastasia]

I do not understand why I would start another thread. I thought you were making a "Claimant's list" and that you request the name of the claimant, the source where we found it and the story about the claimants. I did it! If I write only: name of the claimant "Semionov". Wich Romanov he wanted to be: "Alexei". Source: Edvard Ratzinsy: "The Last Tsar". Story: Oh , he just claimed to be Alexei in 1948 whe he was in a psychiatric...This isn't much. And other members of the forum posted long stories, like Semionov's one!  

RealAnastasia.

[RealAnastasia]

And now, one of my "Tatiana's Claimant".

NAME OF THE CLAIMANT: Alexandra Michaelis.

SOURCE: An article wrote by French Historian Henri Danjou , in "Historia" Review (in French) March, 1955. "Was She a Russian Grand-Duchess?".

SHE APPEARED IN: 1939.Berlin, Germany.

SHE WORKED AS: a nurse, in a hospital for tuberculous people. The Institut  Boelitz-Adlershof.

SUPPORTERS: English Journalist George Herald and his wife. The Baron Werner Van Wiel, his sister, Jutta.

ALEXANDRA MICHAELIS STORY: She claimed she didn't suffered Ekaterinburg Massacre. She was rescued by an orthodox priest Father Storojew and a young soldier of Red Army, Vassili Blücher. The last one helped "Tatiana" to get the German Army, near Ljepaja, in Lithuanie. There, she took the name of Katharina von Travansky and went to live in Berlin. After a while "Tatiana" changed her name again. Since 1919, she was Alexandra Michaelis. Nobody saw her again after the 1950's.

HER ATTITUDE: She didn't claim she was Tatiana. She wanted to live alone, and when somebody would said who she was, she started to cry and said: "Oh! Let me alone! You don't have any proof that I'm Tatiana. I just wants to live as other people does, and if I had any money, I would share it with war victims!"

HER APPAREANCE: She was very stylish, slender and was very similar to Nicolas II.

  And sorry...No; no pics from her. GRRRR!!!  

  RealAnastasia.

[Pravoslavnaya]

We have talked about this particular claimant a great deal lately, AGRBear.  I just wish they'd get his DNA tested and close his case so he could rest in peace as Tammet.

[etonexile]

Gad...they just seem to keep coming out of the woodwork....

[RealAnastasia]

And now, another "Tatiana" who escaped Ekaterinburg.

CLAIMANT NAME: Tatia Romani.

SOURCE AND STORY: Iternet. It was a Spanish site, of course in Spanish www.readysoft.es/home/bereak/Tatiana.htm  Sadly, today I wanted to enter this site and it said it was "Forbidden".   Nothing interesting, anyway. They only show a Tatiana's pic when she was a girl. The article had 20 pages that I printed, and was written first in French by Eleanor Romanov, who said she was the Tsar's granddaughter. This lady claims her mother "Tatiana" was the only survivor from Ekaterinburg. You may email the site's owners to bereak@readysoft.es

THE STORY: "Tatiana" claimed her parents trust she was the most intelligent of her daughters, the more who may take care of herself if she managed to escape. So, they give to her some documents,that she sewed into her corset, along with the family jewels. Nicholas and Alexandra had many talks with her to know what Tatiana most do if her family was killed. When the massacre happened, Tatiana was not dead, but she feint to be. The bolsheviks put her in the truck along with the rest of the family. She claimed she could feel the corpses under her. She whispered some words to them but she understood they were all dead, so she jumped out of the truch, and run into the woods. She fell many times, but she keep running and running. When she supposed to be very far to the truck, she lost conscience...And guess what? A nice guy rescued her. It was a muslim cosack who keep Tatiana with his people, muslims too, and very devoted to the Tsar. They were very surprised when they saw Tatiana all covered with blood. She must to be with them some months to recover from her wounds, but the muslims (nomads) were travelling to the south, and the girl went with them.  Then, she lived for a while in Tashkent and went to Kabul (Afghanistan capital).But she also lived in India and Syria  . She lived there disguissed in muslim woman. She went to live in France, nea Toulon, claimed to have been helped for the Emir Faisal, who would be soon, the king of Irak. She took the fake name Tatia Romani. Nevertheless, I can't understand why her daughter was named Eleonore Romanov...

  The whole story is very confusing and obscure. This Tatia Romani speaks about Rasputin saying he was "a Saint" and claiming that he had predicted that The Holy Russia and the Muslim world would work along, as great friends...This lady said she copied all the story from her mother's private diary. She started it in Ekaterinburg and end it in May 1919. Her daughter read it for the first time in march 1936. It seems that "Tatiana" NEVER claimed in public, to have been  the lost GD.

  And, of course...No photos.  

  RealAnastasia.

[lexi4]

Does anyone know where I can find more information about Prince Alexis Romanov who died in 1986 and had lived in Scottsdale, Arizonia? I am finding nothing.