Author Topic: A List - Claimant's Name/History/Fate (Read 76543 times)

Pravoslavnaya · « **Reply #60 on:** May 16, 2005, 07:04:21 AM »

My dear Lexi --

Why not see if you could follow the leads mentioning 'Prince Alexis of Scottsdale' in Robert Massie's book The Romanovs: The Final Chapter? He sounds like a charming and amusing fellow from back in the days when anyone with an imagination could say he was Alexei Nikolaevich: even had a brand of vodka to 'the Tsarevich's' name! Of course if you have read this book already, there's always the obits in the Scottsdale papers....

The most revealing quote from the Massie book on the subject of Prince Alexis was that a woman admitted 'we all wanted to' believe he was Alexei. That's the thing about all these colorful people. Tammet must have been a charmer, too, and he could even dance and play the balalaika. The least attractive of the Alexeis, Michael Goleniewski, must have even had his charms or he couldn't have put on his charade.

etonexile · « **Reply #61 on:** May 16, 2005, 09:06:20 AM »

Yes...people want to believe in..."Magic"...Santa Claus...the Easter Bunny....but there comes a time to say....enough....get-over-it....

lexi4 · « **Reply #62 on:** May 16, 2005, 04:55:36 PM »

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My dear Lexi --

Why not see if you could follow the leads mentioning 'Prince Alexis of Scottsdale' in Robert Massie's book The Romanovs: The Final Chapter? He sounds like a charming and amusing fellow from back in the days when anyone with an imagination could say he was Alexei Nikolaevich: even had a brand of vodka to 'the Tsarevich's' name! Of course if you have read this book already, there's always the obits in the Scottsdale papers....

The most revealing quote from the Massie book on the subject of Prince Alexis was that a woman admitted 'we all wanted to' believe he was Alexei. That's the thing about all these colorful people. Tammet must have been a charmer, too, and he could even dance and play the balalaika. The least attractive of the Alexeis, Michael Goleniewski, must have even had his charms or he couldn't have put on his charade.

Thank you. I enjoy reading about the pretenders. I have the book. I am hoping to find out what the guys real name was.

AGRBear · « **Reply #63 on:** May 17, 2005, 01:01:52 PM »

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I do not understand why I would start another thread. I thought you were making a "Claimant's list" and that you request the name of the claimant, the source where we found it and the story about the claimants. I did it! If I write only: name of the claimant "Semionov". Wich Romanov he wanted to be: "Alexei". Source: Edvard Ratzinsy: "The Last Tsar". Story: Oh , he just claimed to be Alexei in 1948 whe he was in a psychiatric...This isn't much. And other members of the forum posted long stories, like Semionov's one!

RealAnastasia.

You misunderstood me. Yes, you were very good at following my suggestions. Better than most. What I meant was, after it's on this list thead, if you or anyone had more to discuss then it's best to start thread on the claimant mentioned for this list.

I didn't mean to offend you.

Thank you, Real Anastasia and everyone else for being interesting and making additions to this thread.

AGRBear

AGRBear · « **Reply #64 on:** May 17, 2005, 01:04:06 PM »

Please, do not take this seriously and do NOT let this make you feel uncomfortable in making additions to this thread:

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Yes...people want to believe in..."Magic"...Santa Claus...the Easter Bunny....but there comes a time to say....enough....get-over-it....

AGRBear

RealAnastasia · « **Reply #65 on:** May 17, 2005, 07:32:25 PM »

Hi, Bear:

Thank you; now I understand what you are saying. I would certainly like to start threads about Semionov and the two Tatianas. But I don't know how much info about them it's available in books, reviews, etc. It's sad, but generally, people knows very little about pretenders who lived out English-speaking countries. We may do an exception to Russian pretenders, who are surfacing just now, after the fall of communism. For example, I didn't know anything about the "last Anastasia", the lady who died at 101.

Well...I'll start some threads about the three "new" pretenders.

And now I must tell you I made a mistake...

I wrote that the "last Tatiana" had a daughter named "Eleanor"...It's not at all like this. The "daughter" was a "son", and his name was ELEAZAR or ELEOZAR. I printed the "Tatiana Story" four years ago, and the ink was very pale. This guy claims to be Tatiana's son with Prince Faisal. The story seems to be very far-fetched...But is very interesting and of course hilarious.

RealAnastasia.

dvoretzky · « **Reply #66 on:** May 18, 2005, 09:28:10 AM »

A Bulgarian police investigator has claimed that Alexis and Anastasia lived in hiding in Bulgaria under the assumed family name of Albertov. They reportedly died and were buried in the village cemetery of Gabarevo, near the town of Kazanluk, Central Bulgaria. Officer Blagoy Emanuilov has analized pictures of Anastasia and "Eleonora Albertova" and came to the conclusion that they are the same person.

lexi4 · « **Reply #67 on:** May 18, 2005, 01:47:20 PM »

That is interesting. Where did you read that?

RealAnastasia · « **Reply #68 on:** May 18, 2005, 09:32:39 PM »

I'm furious for the only photos about pretenders that I know are Anna Anderson's, Eugenia Smith's , Filatov's and a few Granny Alina's ones. Why other pretenders doesn't show their photos?

(I'm not meaning this ridicoulous claim made for this American family who shows "Romanov Photos" that doesn't look a bite like the real Romanovs)

RealAnastasia.

AGRBear · « **Reply #69 on:** May 23, 2005, 02:47:31 PM »

Massie's THE FINAL CHAPTER pps. 210-11 mentions a Mrs. Kailing-Romanov who attempted to become a part of the Schweitzer's lawsuit on the AA tissue found. She claimed her mother was Grand Duchess Anastasia.

Data Massie gives us:

"On November 10, a fifty-six-year-old woman from Mujllan, Idaho, Ellen Margarethe Therese Adam Kailing, born in Germany on October 23, 1937, and stil a German citizen, petitioned to intervene."

AGRBear

AGRBear · « **Reply #70 on:** May 25, 2005, 01:18:59 PM »

See thread on Tatiana Romani:

http://hydrogen.pallasweb.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=loonies;action=display;num=1116463876

AGRBear · « **Reply #71 on:** June 01, 2005, 11:46:03 AM »

New thread for the Tatiana claimant Larissa Feodorova:

http://hydrogen.pallasweb.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=loonies;action=display;num=1117643820;start=0#2

AGRBear

AGRBear · « **Reply #72 on:** June 13, 2005, 08:17:26 PM »

Here is a photo of a Maria Claimant found in NICHOLAS II, THE LAST OF THE TSARS by Marc Ferro.

Under it is written:
"Forty years later: is it the same woman?"

Above it is the photo of Grand Duchess Maria , 1913.

The author suggests it was Marie, not Anastasia, whom Dr Utkin treated.... p. 273

pps 266-8:
"..Maria reached Moscow on 18 October and was lodged in the former residence of Bruce Lockhart, where Lunacharsky's wife received her. Chicherin soon appeared..... saying that 'the foreign embassies were arranging her her departure and that of her family'. She was to leave for Kiev."

"...Maria... holding a passport in the name of Couness Czapska, the Polish Count Czapski being a cousin of Chicherin..."

AGRBear

etonexile · « **Reply #73 on:** June 14, 2005, 01:52:13 PM »

Looks nothing like Marie.....

RealAnastasia · « **Reply #74 on:** June 14, 2005, 03:26:57 PM »

I see a close ressemblance, but her face is very fat. A very, very fat Maria. Only her lips are slim...and maria had full lips.

RealAnastasia.

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