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Rani

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Re: Thurn und Taxis, the elder line, Part 2
« Reply #195 on: October 30, 2010, 09:15:44 AM »
I didn´t thought he is so.



But his parents weren´t the modest ones. The acorn doesn't fall far from the tree...
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Re: Thurn und Taxis, the elder line, Part 2
« Reply #196 on: October 31, 2010, 10:16:56 AM »
From ebay, two photos of members of the family.



A lady, photo from 1865, taken in Augsburg
The woman looks like around 25-28.
So it should be a princess born in the 1830s.



A gentleman, 1865, too and taken in München.
The man looks like in his early 20s.


The seller didn´t know the names of the two.
And I have no idea who they could be.
If you know who they are or have ideas, post it :)

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Re: Thurn und Taxis, the elder line, Part 2
« Reply #197 on: November 01, 2010, 05:17:16 PM »
Maybe close relations of Helene of Thurn & Taxis (the lady in waiting of Sisi).

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Re: Thurn und Taxis, the elder line, Part 2
« Reply #198 on: November 03, 2010, 08:28:12 AM »
Margarethe as a nurse



 

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Re: Thurn und Taxis, the elder line, Part 2
« Reply #199 on: November 06, 2010, 10:53:48 AM »
The sisters

Princess Luise von Thurn und Taxis
Born 21 December 1828 Ansbach
Died 7 January 1916 Wuerzburg 

Princess Adelheid von Thurn und Taxis
Born 25 October 1829 Ansbach
 Died 7 September 1888 Waal 

Princess Sophie von Thurn und Taxis
Born 13 August 1835 Wuerzburg
Died 23 June 1913 Sandizel 


Maybe you are right Eric and she is a relative of Helene Kinsky, maybe

Princess Rosa von Thurn und Taxis
Born 22 May 1833 Baja
Died 21 February 1907 Wien 

I didn´t see any photo of her.

There is also the sister of Erbprinz Max anton, but they said, she was pretty

Princess Therese von Thurn und Taxis
Born 31 August 1830 Regensburg
Died 10 September 1883 Wobensin 


Rani

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Re: Thurn und Taxis, the elder line, Part 2
« Reply #200 on: November 06, 2010, 11:00:06 AM »
The young man could be:

Prince Lamoral von Thurn und Taxis (a brother of Helene and Rosa)
Born 13 April 1832 Maria Theresiopel
Died 9 December 1903 Pressburg

Prince Friedrich von Thurn und Taxis (a brother of Helene and Rosa)
Born 10 October 1839 Sarospatak
Died 4 July 1906 Zdounek, Moravia 

I don´t think it´s one of Max Antons brothers

Prince Egmont von Thurn und Taxis
Born 28 September 1849 Gleichenberg
Died 28 December 1866 Castle Lautschin 


He hasn´t a similarity to Egmonts brother Alexander, husband of Mary of Thurn und Taxis.
IMO both could be siblings of Helene Kinsky.

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Rani

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Re: Thurn und Taxis, the elder line, Part 2
« Reply #202 on: November 06, 2010, 01:28:14 PM »
I could be wrong, and he is a brother of Max Anton

Prince Adolf von Thurn und Taxis

Born 26 May 1850 Castle Donaustauf
Died 3 January 1890 Abfalter nr Salzburg 

But he must be 15 on the photo??



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Re: Thurn und Taxis, the elder line, Part 2
« Reply #203 on: November 07, 2010, 03:26:01 PM »
I think the young woman bore a resemblence to Helen Kinsky, I would think it could well her her sister...

Rani

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Re: Thurn und Taxis, the elder line, Part 2
« Reply #204 on: November 08, 2010, 11:18:59 AM »
Especially the mouth. Could be Rosa.

But I´m not so sure about the Prince.

Eric_Lowe

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Re: Thurn und Taxis, the elder line, Part 2
« Reply #205 on: November 08, 2010, 11:35:58 AM »
What do you know about Rosa of Thurn & Taxis ?

Rani

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Re: Thurn und Taxis, the elder line, Part 2
« Reply #206 on: November 08, 2010, 04:31:28 PM »
She was the daughter of

Prince Friedrich von Thurn und Taxis
Born 3 September 1799 Prag               
Died 17 January 1857 Venezia, Italy
Married 29 June 1831 Wien
Countess Aurora Batthyany de Nemet-Ujvar, daughter of Count
Vincenz Batthyany de Nemet-Ujvar and Josepha Rudnyak de
Batsfa de Magyar Bel
Born 13 June 1806 Ofen
Died 18 September 1881 Ischl 


She had 6 siblings

Prince Lamoral von Thurn und Taxis
               Born 13 April 1832 Maria Theresiopel
               Died 9 December 1903 Pressburg
               Married 22 April 1871 Pressburg
               Countess Antonia Schaffgotsch, Freiin zu Kynast und
               Greiffenstein, daughter of Count Friedrich Schaffgotsch,
               Freiherr zu Kynast und Greiffenstein and Countess Therese
               Palffy ab Erdod
               Born 18 July 1850 Bruenn
               Died 26 March 1942 Castle Biskupitz 

Princess Helene von Thurn und Taxis
               Born 15 May 1836 Saros-Patak
               Died 13 November 1901 Wien
               Married 15 May 1871 Wien         
               Count Wolfgang Kinsky von Wchinitz und Tettau, son of Count
               Joseph Kinsky von Wchinitz und Tettau and Countess Marie
               Czernin von und zu Chudenitz
               Born 19 January 1836 Wien
               Died 14 December 1885 Meran 

Princess Laura von Thurn und Taxis                                     
               Born 6 July 1838 Sarospatak
               Died 29 July 1838 Sarospatak 


Prince Friedrich von Thurn und Taxis
               Born 10 October 1839 Sarospatak
               Died 4 July 1906 Zdounek, Moravia
               Married 30 April 1872 Wien
               Countess Maria von Thun und Hohenstein, daughter of Count
               Friedrich von Thun und Hohenstein and Countess Leopoldine               
               von Lamberg, Freiin von Stein und Guttenberg
               Born 6 August 1850 Frankfurt am Main
               Died 29 August 1929 Zdounek 

Prince Arthur von Thurn und Taxis
               Born 31 July 1842 Prosenitz
               Died 7 October 1848 Prag 

Princess Irene Maria von Thurn und Taxis
               Born 27 April 1847
               Died 18 August 1847 Kosir 


From Royaltyguide.nl

Grave of Rosa and her mother

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/7149/thurnundtaxis3.jpg

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/9086/thurn20und20taxis2.jpg

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4393/aurorabattyanyfrauvonha.jpg

That´s all.  ;D

I hope I find new infos.

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Re: Thurn und Taxis, the elder line, Part 2
« Reply #207 on: November 09, 2010, 10:23:29 AM »
Thanks for the info. I think based primarily on the physical similarities at this point, I think we could state that the lady in the first photo "most likely" would have been Princess Rosa von Thurn & Taxis, pending on more information.  ;)

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Re: Thurn und Taxis, the elder line, Part 2
« Reply #208 on: December 22, 2010, 01:42:24 PM »
Margarethe as a nurse



 

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Re: Thurn und Taxis, the elder line, Part 2
« Reply #209 on: December 22, 2010, 01:45:41 PM »
My beloved Gloria



 

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