Was this room in the Alexander Palace?

[Geglov2-3]

Можно простчитать где расположено окно ...
или если расположение не меняли увидеть где оно было ...


It is possible to assume where the window is located...
Or if an arrangement did not change to see where it was...

[Geglov2-3]

К сожалению современное расположение другое, через 5 окон ...
Unfortunately a modern arrangement another, through 5 windows...

[Geglov2-3]

Раньше было через 3 окна ...
Earlier was through 3 windows...

Тогда это крайнее левое окно на этом фото
Then this extreme left window on it a photo

Интересно башенка наверху это не маленькая обсерватория ?
Interestingly turret above it not a small observatory?

[Geglov2-3]

Занимаясь этим вопросом случайно кажется нашёл бывшие "Чихачёвские" ворота, они стояли на повороте с Дворцовой улицы на Фермскую просеку ...
Prosecute this subjects casually it seems has found was "CHihachyovskie" a gate, they stood on turn from Palace street on Fermskuju a glade...

http://pushkin-history.info/fotoalbom-old-1-/7902.html

Кажется они случайно сохранились ...  их использовали военные ...
It seems they casually were kept... They were used by militarians...

[pastpalacelife]

Hi,   So are you saying those gates were moved from the original place, and are now located on the  side of the palace where Alexandra's balcony was?  Also, I'm having trouble understanding about the unusual window behing Anna V; is Alexi standing near to the same spot in the path photo?  Thanks for your responses.   

[lilianna]

Автор  восстановления дворца Л.М.Безверхний писал, что во время реконструкции были уничтожены все трубы от каминов, которые портили крышу. И поэтому, если смотреть на дворец до войны и после войны, крыша дворца совершенно разная.
Мне кажется, что для обсерватории башенка слишком мала. Может быть, она была сделана во время Мировой войны для защиты дворца (наблюдение) от аэропланов? Ведь была в Царском Селе воздушная батарея, сформированная именно для охраны царской резиденции.

The author of restoration of a palace L.M.Bezverkhny wrote, that during reconstruction pipes from fireplaces which spoilt a roof have been destroyed all. And consequently if to look at a palace before war and after war, the roof of a palace absolutely different.
It seems to me, that for an observatory the turret is too small. Perhaps, she has been made during World war for protection of a palace (supervision) from airplanes? In fact there was in Tsarskoe Selo the air battery generated for protection of an imperial residence.

[Joanna]

Lilianna, thank you for the interesting restoration information by L. Bezverkhny. I had not known of this. Also I had thought that the turret may have been for palace telephone/telegraph communications but now your idea of aerial protection is one to think of. I had read something on this which I should have linked for future reference and now must search again for it.

Joanna

[Geglov2-3]

Судя по дереву около уступа дворца 1-е и 2-е фото дворца конец XIX века (Цесаревич стоит около него оно ветвистое).
By a tree about a ledge of a palace 1 and 2 photos of a palace the end of XIX century (Cesarevitch costs about it it branchy).

[Joanna]

To the right then were the stairs to Alexandra's balcony as it wrap around to the rear of the palace from the side? The path that Alexei is on would have led from these stairs to the path in front of the semi-circular.

Joanna

[Geglov2-3]

[pastpalacelife]

Thanks, it was bugging me trying to figure out where Alexi was standing.  Is it possible to get at all close to the back of the palace?  I was wondering if maybe there was a trace of the path left.  I assume that getting next to the side where the balcony used to be is not permitted?  If it could be seen, maybe there are still holes or bolts or something that show where the balcony attached to the palace. 

[Joanna]

As of May, the fence is still surrounding the palace. I took telephoto closeups of the left wing and even then it is impossible to differentiate where the balcony was attached. I have problems understanding how the access door from the Maple room was built! There is one large bolt that is under the 10th window from the rear next to the drainpipe but I would think that with reconstruction after the war and since, that it is a current piece embedded into the wall. It is difficult to explain but under each window sill, it appears as if it is large width and length size inserted pieces separate to the wall edifice. They reach to the white strip line of the basement.

Joanna

[pastpalacelife]

Thanks Joanna, very interesting.  Did you happen to get any tele zoom shots of the balcony off the semi circle?  I like to compare new pictures with the old.  In lots of the old pics of the semi balcony, you can see water seepage spots in between the bricks, I wonder if those dark area's are the same. 

[Joanna]

I see in enlarged photograph of Alexei sitting on the sled the brickwork that you speak of. It is greatly scared with water damage. In my photographs the bricks almost look pristine. I wonder if during reconstructions materials used were more weather treated than in 1900s.  Drainpipes are also placed in different locations from then.

Joanna

[pastpalacelife]

If you have any close ups of the balcony (new) could you post them please?  Or do you have them in photobucket or other that I could look at?  I've tried to compare different vintage pics, such as Olga and Tatianna posing in their uniforms, and Alexi on horse, etc, but when the camera is angled differently between pictures, it's hard to orientate the bricks to the iron posts and windows.  Anyway, if you have any, that'd be great!