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Re: Tatiana Photographs II
« Reply #165 on: December 30, 2008, 02:24:16 PM »
So 18 albums?

I think there are more than that -- the IF may not have taken all their albums into exile. I'll have to check a couple books and see what I can find.
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Re: Tatiana Photographs II
« Reply #166 on: December 30, 2008, 03:01:04 PM »
So 18 albums?

I think there are more than that -- the IF may not have taken all their albums into exile. I'll have to check a couple books and see what I can find.


Oh I totally agree, theres lots more than that but thats the only figures I have  :(

in the meantime heres a photo that I like -"http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/tom_romanov/olgatat.jpg"
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Re: Tatiana Photographs II
« Reply #167 on: December 30, 2008, 03:09:00 PM »
Some relevant information excerpted from pages 230-8 of Nicholas & Alexandra: The Last Imperial Family of Tsarist Russia:

"Today, the State Archive of the Russian Federation holds the private collections of Emperor Nicholas II, Empress Alexandra Feodorovna and their children, Grand Duchesses Olga, Tatiana, Maria, and Anastasia, and the heir to the throne, Alexei. The Archive contains 4,509 items, of which more than a quarter are individual photographs or albums. In addition to these collections, the private archives of the grand dukes and courtiers contain correspondence and photographs of the last tsar and his family."

""Nicholas II obtained a camera in the year of his coronation; he took pictures throughout his life. [....] The first family album dates from this year [1896]... The album contains 508 photographs from the period 1896-7."

"Thirty-three albums for the period 1906-1917 with family photographs from the personal collections of the Grand Duchesses Olga, Tatiana, Maria, and Anastasia are kept in the State Archive of the Russian Federation."

"The last amateur photographs were taken by the youngest members of the family in the spring and summer of 1917 in Tsarskoye Selo at the time of their arrest...The photographs from the Tobolsk period of the family's incarceration are missing from the State Archive, but a few pictures survive in private collections and have been reproduced in various publications. There are no known photographs of the Romanovs in Ekaterinburg."


Private family albums belonging to NII survive for the following years:
1896
1897
1900-01
1905-1910
1910-11
1911-1913
1914

In Alexandra's private papers, there were 900 loose photographs dating from 1896 to 1916.

So by my count, there are a minimum of 40 private family albums (probably more, since I didn't find any mention of Aleksei's personal albums) which may contain up to 500 pictures each. When added to Alexandra's loose photos, that makes approximately 20,900 photos in the IF's private collection.

Incidentally, a court photographer named Yagelsky "was a master of the art of instant photography and left an enormous collection of photographs of the emperor and his family in moments of rest and relaxation.... Yagelsky accompanied the emperor and his family wherever they went, and took thousands of photographs." He even accompanied them to Livadia and on board the Standart. So we can't really know which of the informal shots were taken by Yagelsky, and which were captured by the IF themselves (except perhaps for those taken in the private apartments of the AP.)

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Re: Tatiana Photographs II
« Reply #168 on: December 30, 2008, 03:51:43 PM »
wow thats a lot! Can we see all the albums

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Re: Tatiana Photographs II
« Reply #169 on: December 30, 2008, 03:55:16 PM »
Nope. Only Anna Vyrubova's albums are available to browse online:

http://beinecke.library.yale.edu/dl_crosscollex/romanov_album.htm


Selections from the IF's albums have been reproduced in a number of books. You can look through the APTM Book Finder to find books classified as Photo Albums or Photo-biographies if you're interested in obtaining more pictures of the IF.
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Re: Tatiana Photographs II
« Reply #170 on: December 30, 2008, 05:36:41 PM »
These photos also show them just being themselves. Whether it is Tsar Nicholas II and his family, or anyone else from history, we tend to think of them only as a figure in history. We often forget that historical figures were real people with lives, and feelings, and emotions, in that regard they were people just like us. These photos of Tsar Nicholas II and his family allow us to see them in a way that lets us identify with them as human beings. If history is to mean anything to us and come alive to us, then we need to see the people of the past and the figures from history as human beings and identify with them as the human people they were.

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Re: Tatiana Photographs II
« Reply #171 on: December 30, 2008, 07:44:00 PM »
Thank you Sarushka!

Well, I think there are more photos taken by servants and tutuors or friends, like Gilliard,Gibbes,Anan Virburova....Counts A. Grabbe, v.N.Voeikov..... and photos taken not by them at different ceremonies. I have read that there were between 150.000 and 600.000 photos of IF.

Tatiana, from Livadia.org. I love her pose:
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Re: Tatiana Photographs II
« Reply #172 on: December 31, 2008, 06:50:55 AM »
Thank you Sarushka!

Well, I think there are more photos taken by servants and tutuors or friends, like Gilliard,Gibbes,Anan Virburova....Counts A. Grabbe, v.N.Voeikov..... and photos taken not by them at different ceremonies. I have read that there were between 150.000 and 600.000 photos of IF.

Tatiana, from Livadia.org. I love her pose:


Yes i have read the same but i have only about 1000-2000 and i'm still finding new .... but unfortunately this happened rare....
About Anna Virubova yesterday i have read more about her and i can't believe how hated she was...She seems nice to me.... and Alexandra wasn't stupid to trust her.... Anna represent to us so many pictures and i'm thankful to her....

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Re: Tatiana Photographs II
« Reply #173 on: December 31, 2008, 11:35:48 AM »
And Anna was very badly treated during the revolution, which makes me feel sorry for her.

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Re: Tatiana Photographs II
« Reply #174 on: December 31, 2008, 12:42:30 PM »
Here's a photo of Tatiana with Olga and Anna (quite a famous one) - "http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/tom_romanov/598px-OlgaTatianaVyrubova.jpg"

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Re: Tatiana Photographs II
« Reply #175 on: January 02, 2009, 06:04:51 AM »
Tatiana in Finland - one of my favourite photos of her. She looks so melancholic...

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Re: Tatiana Photographs II
« Reply #176 on: January 02, 2009, 06:51:44 AM »
Or she is just focused on the thing in the water(?) :D

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Re: Tatiana Photographs II
« Reply #177 on: January 02, 2009, 02:51:54 PM »
I've never known Tatiana to look melancholic before. I wonder if there are any more pictures...

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Re: Tatiana Photographs II
« Reply #178 on: January 02, 2009, 02:54:19 PM »
From that day?

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Re: Tatiana Photographs II
« Reply #179 on: January 02, 2009, 02:56:44 PM »
from any photograph of Tatiana