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Re: Anna Aleksandrovna Vyrubova (1884-1964)
« Reply #405 on: June 12, 2008, 04:17:54 PM »
I would say 1909. I don't know why!
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« Reply #406 on: August 29, 2008, 11:38:15 AM »
I feel a bit apprehensive about starting a new topic being a newbie. I have been browsing around looking for pictures of Anna in her later years. Most of the pictures have been deleted, so I have no way of knowing which pictures you already are familiar with. Then I decided to post these pictures of her, probably taken at the same time at her home in Helsinki. The first one is the well-known one, also published in her memoirs, but I wonder if you have seen this other one. I think it's a lovely picture, Anna is looking at her photo album, the album full of her pictures and memories of and with the imperial family. Maybe she is trying to decide which pictures she would like to be published in her memoirs, but absolutely not at her lifetime - as agreed with Ms Viherjuuri, the daughter of Mr Viherjuuri, who bought out the rights of publication in 1939 from another Finnish publication agency. Finally in 1987 her memoirs were published in Finnish, edited by Ms Viherjuuri, but without this picture of Anna looking at her precious photographs.




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Re: Anna Aleksandrovna Vyrubova (1884-1964)
« Reply #407 on: August 29, 2008, 12:02:03 PM »
Thank you Maaria!

I've seen the first photo, though not in such good quality, and the second is entirely new to me.

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« Reply #408 on: August 29, 2008, 12:16:19 PM »
Out of interest what happened to her possessions after her death, such as photo albums and the like?
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Re: Anna Aleksandrovna Vyrubova (1884-1964)
« Reply #409 on: August 29, 2008, 12:45:21 PM »
A number of her photo albums are held in Yale's Beinecke library. Click here to browse them online.

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« Reply #410 on: August 29, 2008, 01:16:08 PM »
Maaria -- have you ever seen a larger/better quality version of this photo?





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Re: Anna Aleksandrovna Vyrubova (1884-1964)
« Reply #411 on: August 29, 2008, 05:42:09 PM »
Many many thanks Maaria for these incredible photographs of Anna. I also have seen the first but without your great clarity. The second of Anna with her photo album is absolutely new for me and a treasure. As Anna sold her albums in late 1930s, this one must have been taken just prior. I wonder if it is of her apartment in Viipuri.

Sarushka, the photograph you posted was taken from a Finnish film a couple of years ago. There is amongst others amazing footage of Anna with Vera reading a newspaper.

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« Reply #412 on: August 29, 2008, 05:53:05 PM »
Anna Virburova was one very interesting woman, and very brave, IMO - she had many hard moments at Petropavlosvsk, and exile. Also, last time when she saw Tsarina was very touching. Also, she helped to IF, sent them money, and she kept one great collection of pictures. I saw one of Tsar and Tsarevich with woods,at Siberia, winter 1917/8 -  I guess she got that one from IF.
Agree?

Later she lived at Finnland, in monastery, correct if I am wrong. Almost forget to thank to Maaria and Sarushka for sharing pics. of Anna in her later years.  ;)
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« Reply #413 on: August 29, 2008, 09:41:54 PM »
I have often wondered  just how she managed to haul all those albums out of Russia, as she was under such distress.  A formidable woman indeed.

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« Reply #414 on: August 30, 2008, 07:06:36 AM »
Her life during and after the revolution was indeed very difficult including prison, harrowing escapes and even leaving behind all her friends and worldly possessions. She had very good friends helping her. She did indeed live in Finland until her death; in a modern apartment building in Helsinki that still stands today; first in a bigger apartment on a higher floor (even had an elevator because she was very crippled) and then a tiny apartment on the ground floor. She is buried in Helsinki.

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« Reply #415 on: August 30, 2008, 09:12:29 AM »
I have often wondered  just how she managed to haul all those albums out of Russia, as she was under such distress.  A formidable woman indeed.

Interesting question. I wondered too - especially after reading her book one gets the impression that she had not a single possession left after the imprisonment. How did she manage to keep those 6 albums? They're really HUGE and seem to be heavy. All in all not the first thing to grab if one has to rescue one's life....

She looks so incredibly young - I mean she has got wrinkles and white hair but it seems almost like make-up. It is still Anna, her eyes and features are so vivid and  - in a way - young. Never seen a similar case...

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« Reply #416 on: September 01, 2008, 11:25:50 AM »
I am very happy for posting those pictures of Anna for you. Now may I tell you some things about them:

As I have mentioned before, my mother has some glass negatives she found some years ago in an old books shop. 23 of them are pictures of the imperial family, taken from Anna's album(s), and 2 of them are the ones of Anna herself I posted here. Some of the pictures have presumably Anna's writing from the album on them, as you can see on the picture below:



We have carefully looked through the negatives, over and over again, and have come to the conclusion that quite possibly the negatives are the very same that have been used in Anna's memoirs, the Finnish edition from 1987. The pictures have the same flaws -  and some of them are slightly out of focus, which very easily happened using the old fashion reprographic cameras. So maybe when the first publishing agreement was made in Viipuri in 1937, publishing agency took some photographs of the photo albums. And later, after Anna already had sold the albums, there were only the negatives left to use in the book. This is only speculation, of course, so please correct me if I'm wrong!

But the negatives of Anna herself are very sharp and the hue variation is perfect. Joanna, you may be right about the pictures having been taken in Viipuri. If it is so, the pictures were possibly taken in 1937 when Anna was 53 and had just finished writing the Russian manuscript of her memoirs. What do you think, would that sound and look right?

When the Winter War broke out in '39, Anna and her friend Vera Sapevalov left to Sweden. Their expenses were paid by the Swedish royal family. Right after the Winter War ended in the spring of 1940, Anna and Vera came back to Finland. Viipuri was now part of the Soviet Union, so they moved to Helsinki. Because of the war the housing situation was very bad indeed, but they managed to get a small two-room-apartment in Topeliuksenkatu (Topelius Street) in the center of Helsinki. Queen Louise of Sweden paid Anna a small pension until Anna's death in July 20th 1964. Her loyal friend and caretaker Vera stayed in the apartment until 1980 and died in 1985.

I work in printing house myself and naturally we have an excellent scanner there. But the day I decided to finally scan the negatives, I noticed it made some nasty stripes throughout the pictures. So if some of you were wondering about the odd stripes in Anna's pictures, that's the explanation. When we get the scanner fixed, I can post you better quality ones.

Sarushka, I would love to help you with the picture, but sorry, I don't know more about it. But thank you so much for the link to Anna's albums online!!! I didn't know such site existed. Now I'm going to spend the rest of the evening browsing them...

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« Reply #417 on: September 01, 2008, 12:26:14 PM »
Lucky you - dreamlike to find such treasures. And thank you very much for sharing them so generously!
The photo of Nicolas II was actually taken in October 1910 in Friedberg Castle, Hesse, Germany.

Interesting to know that Anna contacted Queen Louise of Sweden and got a pension from her. She thanked the Queen very generously: She gave her an album with photographs of the Imperial Family (so she had obviously not sold them all (!)) as well as a tiny booklet bound in red and golden leather. The first page reads: For Darling Ania - Alexandra 1907g.
It contains  - in the Empress's own hand - numerous little poems, prayers and such in French, English and German.
The Queen gave these items to her nephew Ludiwg Prince of Hesse and the Rhine

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Re: Anna Aleksandrovna Vyrubova (1884-1964)
« Reply #418 on: September 02, 2008, 01:55:14 AM »
I wonder what the poems were like? She managed to get quite a bit of stuff out of Russia then it seems. She did not have much time to leave the Alexandra Palace so I imagine these items must have been stored somewhere else, such as her house near the Palace or in St P.
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« Reply #419 on: September 02, 2008, 02:26:58 AM »
Michael, it is Alexander Palace. not Alexandra. But you know that.
 Anyway,   She was imprisoned for a while and was probably slated to be shot, but let go.  I think she left her chattels with a friend in St.P,  who later somehow managed to get them to her in Finland.  I have no idea if this is the true story or not. Her dramatic escape from Russia is   mentioned in several books, but not how  she managed  to recover her goods. If someone knows more about this than I do, I would welcome the information.