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Offline carkuczyn

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« on: April 05, 2007, 07:31:49 PM »
is there a rule as to whether a russian female's patronym ends in "ovna" or "evna"?  this always confuses me.  thanks for any help. 

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Re: patronyms
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2007, 09:52:46 PM »
is there a rule as to whether a russian female's patronym ends in "ovna" or "evna"?  this always confuses me.  thanks for any help. 

Generally, the ending is "ovna". However, when the father's name ends in "i" like Nikolai, or Sergei,  the ending is "evna"

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Re: patronyms
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2007, 04:22:42 AM »
A few Russian male names end with -a: Nikita, Kuz'ma, Savva. In this case the female patronym's ending is -ichna: Nikitichna, Kuz'minichna, Savvichna.

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Re: patronyms
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2007, 04:56:05 AM »
And of course the same rules apply for male patronyms -ovich, -evich, or -ich.

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Re: patronyms
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2007, 11:24:22 PM »
Thanks everyone.  I used to go by the idea that girls had the patronym [evna] and boys had [evich], I never knew that a certain letter could change the name's form. 

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Re: patronyms
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2009, 08:29:23 PM »
The rule of specific ends for patronyms is similar than with the surnames, the majority
of the surnames for women end with "a", of course it depends of the ends of the surnames, like
ov- ova, ev- eva, in-ina... just the ones with nko have the same ending for woman.

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Re: patronyms
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2009, 04:14:55 AM »
Going slightly off topic, what happens to foundlings and other Russians with unknown fathers? Is there a 'standard' patronymic, rather like Feodorovich/Feodorovna for foreign converts to Orthodoxy whose fathers' names do not have Russian equivalents (St Feodor being the patron saint of converts)?

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Re: patronyms
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2009, 02:50:18 PM »
A few Russian male names end with -a: Nikita, Kuz'ma, Savva. In this case the female patronym's ending is -ichna: Nikitichna, Kuz'minichna, Savvichna.
And I'll add Ilya... with patronyms like Ilich or Ilinichna. I don't know why they change very much

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Re: patronyms
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2009, 02:51:58 PM »
Going slightly off topic, what happens to foundlings and other Russians with unknown fathers? Is there a 'standard' patronymic, rather like Feodorovich/Feodorovna for foreign converts to Orthodoxy whose fathers' names do not have Russian equivalents (St Feodor being the patron saint of converts)?
Very good question. But not all the foreign converts took the patronym of Feodorovich/Feodorovna,
there are a couple of Tsarinas without it.

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Re: patronyms
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2009, 03:32:03 AM »
I did read in Massie's Peter the Great that Catherine I became Ekaterina Alexeyevna when she converted to Orthodoxy, with the Tsarevich Alexei as her godfather. Perhaps other converts got their patronyms from their godfathers.

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Re: patronyms
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2009, 12:04:40 AM »
A few Russian male names end with -a: Nikita, Kuz'ma, Savva. In this case the female patronym's ending is -ichna: Nikitichna, Kuz'minichna, Savvichna.
And I'll add Ilya... with patronyms like Ilich or Ilinichna. I don't know why they change very much
If the name of the father is Ilya, the patronym will be Ilyich ;-)

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Re: patronyms
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2009, 02:07:04 AM »
What will be the patronymic for a girl whose father is named Stanislav?
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Re: patronyms
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2009, 03:27:16 AM »
Stanislavovna

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Re: patronyms
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2009, 06:49:04 PM »
If the name of the father is Ilya, the patronym will be Ilyich ;-)
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Re: patronyms
« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2009, 05:50:32 AM »
I think "Ilyich' would be male patronymic.
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