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Re: Princess Zenaida Yusupova - discussion and pictures
« Reply #210 on: June 13, 2007, 01:17:24 PM »
It was ONE of the nicknames mentioned in Ferrands book AND was also recounted by Princess Tatiana Wassiltchikov (later Princess Metternich, died2006) who was a contempary & friend of her grandaughter and stayed with the Princess in 1938 at Serves while recovering from an illness.
wow. thank you for the information!
do you have Ferrands book??



i know you were'nt asking me, but it's a wonderful book.    fotos of the facades & interiors of their various residences --- Moika palace, chateau d'Arkhangelskoie, villa at Tsarskoie-Selo, Koriez in the Crimea, etc;  
also included are the "villa Tatiana" in Switzerland, the hôtel in the Parc des Princes in Paris (rented by, and later sold to, grand duke Pavel Aleksandrovich during his exile for marrying mme von Pistolkhors, later known as 'princess Paley'.   the book also has fotos (interior & facades) of the chateau de Kériolet, a huge gothic (monstrocity) in France...bought by Feliks' grandmother, for her 2nd husband, monsieur (?) de Chaveau (for whom she also bought the title of 'comte', and for herself, the title of 'marquise de Serre').    after the comte de Chaveau's death, she discovered he'd left the chateau to his mistress.    she bought it back from the mistress & left it to the French government (or some French gov't agency) with the stipulation that it be maintained (ie: kept in good repair).
   (RE: the chateau de Kériolet:   after the revolution, Feliks had the good fortune to discover that the French gov't had not maintained the property or the chateau.  he sued the French gov't for the return of the property (park & chateau), on the grounds that they failed to fulfill the terms of his grandmother's will.   he won the court case & subsequenly sold it, lock-stock-&-barrel.)

the book also contains fotos of a part of the Yusupov's collection of jewelry.    

as i said, it's a wonderful book.


incidentally, i recently ordered the 6 volume set of (pre-revolution) fotos, Noblesse russe : portraits also by Jacques Ferrand.   (the first volume was published in 1985 & the most recent volume (#6) in 1996 i believe.)    
     i can't wait to see what's in them!     if anyone has already seen them, i'd love to know what to expect.
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Re: Princess Zenaida Yusupova - discussion and pictures
« Reply #211 on: June 13, 2007, 03:06:40 PM »
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oooh thank you for the information very much!
but are there any pics of Felix that we havent seen on the web?
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« Reply #212 on: June 13, 2007, 03:41:02 PM »

I had posted this one on another thread on GDss Ella :)

oh really? maybe here are people who havet seen it before, like me)
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« Reply #213 on: June 15, 2007, 01:07:39 AM »
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where did you order the books? how can we get them?
"Тоска ужасная, так долго ехать, so happy to see you soon, my darling love. Felix" - 17.10.1915

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Re: Princess Zenaida Yusupova - discussion and pictures
« Reply #214 on: June 15, 2007, 10:36:40 PM »


I simply love looking at her pictures. She's the only one who smiles in her pictures both formal and informal.
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Re: Princess Zenaida Yusupova - discussion and pictures
« Reply #215 on: June 30, 2007, 03:30:57 AM »
Miniature of little Zenaida



Here Zenaida with her sons


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Re: Princess Zenaida Yusupova - discussion and pictures
« Reply #216 on: June 30, 2007, 03:34:17 AM »
Blurry picture but all ladies are recognizable :)



From l. to r. : Princess Zinaida Nikolayevna, Grand Duchess Xenia Alexandrovna, Princess Irina Felixovna Yusupova, Princess Irina Alexandrovna Yusupova (mother of Irina Felixovna). The picture was taken in 1933, and probably after GD Alexander's (Sandro) death.

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Re: Princess Zenaida Yusupova - discussion and pictures
« Reply #217 on: June 30, 2007, 01:57:17 PM »
Quote
incidentally, i recently ordered the 6 volume set of (pre-revolution) fotos, Noblesse russe : portraits also by Jacques Ferrand.   (the first volume was published in 1985 & the most recent volume (#6) in 1996 i believe.)    
    


i started "ladies of the nobility in court-dress" in Russian Noble Families
http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php/topic,9741


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Re: Princess Zenaida Yusupova - discussion and pictures
« Reply #218 on: June 30, 2007, 06:24:14 PM »
Wow, I had never seen those last two before, thanks! What a nice view into those parts of her life. Little Felix was so cute! I'd never seen a picture of teenage Bebe, what a nice group shot!

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Re: Princess Zenaida Yusupova - discussion and pictures
« Reply #219 on: June 30, 2007, 07:21:14 PM »
WOW!!!

First of all, I think that the last picture posed of Zinaida, Xenia, Bebe and Irina is a first of the four them together. Also, I think that's the oldest I've ever seen Zinaida in any picture.

I loved that picture of Zenaida with her sons. It shows how close she was to her boys.

Svetabel, thanks for posting!Where did you find them at?

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Re: Princess Zenaida Yusupova - discussion and pictures
« Reply #220 on: July 01, 2007, 02:50:33 AM »

I loved that picture of Zenaida with her sons. It shows how close she was to her boys.

Svetabel, thanks for posting!Where did you find them at?

Rare pictures of the Yusupovs can be found in the brochures issued by the Yusupovskiy Palace (Saint-Petersburg palace of Culture for Educators). But you hardly can find them in on-line shops  :(.

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Re: Princess Zenaida Yusupova - discussion and pictures
« Reply #221 on: July 02, 2007, 02:43:56 AM »
Blurry picture but all ladies are recognizable :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/feomarie/Rarefind/zxii1933.jpg

From l. to r. : Princess Zinaida Nikolayevna, Grand Duchess Xenia Alexandrovna, Princess Irina Felixovna Yusupova, Princess Irina Alexandrovna Yusupova (mother of Irina Felixovna). The picture was taken in 1933, and probably after GD Alexander's (Sandro) death.
That picture has always intrigued me.....Grand Duchess Xenia was often described as small while Zenaida was said to be tall (we know Irina was and no doubt her daughter) but in that picture Zenaida looks  if anything slightly SHORTER than Xenia even taking the GDuchesses mourning cap into consideration !
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Re: Princess Zenaida Yusupova - discussion and pictures
« Reply #222 on: July 02, 2007, 11:28:59 AM »
Well, I'm sure her weight  and age has something to do with that.

When your slim you look somewhat taller, however when you're heavier you tend to look shorter than what you really are. One must also remember that some people get shorter as they age.

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Re: Princess Zenaida Yusupova - discussion and pictures
« Reply #223 on: July 02, 2007, 01:35:50 PM »
Very true Ashanti and Xenia was 14 years younger...but still a little mystery....Princess Tatiana Metternich's description of Zenaida in the last year of her life show she was still as magnetic and beautiful as ever..

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Re: Princess Zenaida Yusupova - discussion and pictures
« Reply #224 on: July 02, 2007, 02:56:35 PM »
also, if you'll notice the bottom of the photo, Zenaida feet show her to be standing a little behind the rest (and/or possibly above -- as on the step of the french windows) and depending on the actual height of the photographer, the perspective may be playing tricks.   

but i think ashanti's suggestion is much more likely.


come to think of it, if she is standing on the step....that would suggest she was significantly shorter.
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