Grand Duchess Olga Alexandrovna, discussion and pictures Part 2

[Eric_Lowe]

Yes. It is a great video on Olga.

[Nicola De Valeron]

GD Olga Alexandrovna as a Sister of Mercy and Major General of the HIM Suite and Commander of the 12th Cavalry Division Gustaf Carlovich Mannerheim in war lazaret. 1915.



* Photo is posted with the kind permission of an author from the archives of Vitaly Zhumenko, from the album "White Army. Photoportraits of Russian Officers 1917 - 1922", YMCA-PRESS, 2007, PARIS.
  (Фото размещено с любезного согласия автора из архива Виталия Жуменко, из альбома "Белая армия. Фотопортреты русских офицеров 1917 - 1922", YMCA-PRESS, 2007, PARIS.)

[kmerov]

Grand Duke Mikhail and Grand Duchess Olga.

[Sharon Chicago]

Great pictures .... Olga was so cute.... she resembled Tsar Nicholas ....   I was wondering are any of Olga's grandchildren still living in Toronto or Canada?  I loved her biography but am wondering where her grandchildren currently live.

[Eric_Lowe]

Actually Olga resembled her father more and that is why she was the favourite of Dagmar. Misha looked more towards the Danish side of the family.

[Ena]

Great pictures .... Olga was so cute.... she resembled Tsar Nicholas ....   I was wondering are any of Olga's grandchildren still living in Toronto or Canada?  I loved her biography but am wondering where her grandchildren currently live.

If you're on Facebook, Olga's granddaughter, Olga Kulikovsky Cordeiro, has a fan page on there called "Olga Kulikovsky Cordeiro, Granddaughter of Grandduchess Olga of Russia".  It looks like she's living in the Toronto area.  Olga A.'s great-grandson, Paul Kulikovsky, has a FB group devoted to his great-grandmother.  It's called the "Grand Duchess Olga Alexandrovna Appreciation Society".   

Both are open for any members of Facebook to join. :-)

Olga's also on Twitter:  http://twitter.com/coacholga

[Ena]

Actually Olga resembled her father more and that is why she was the favourite of Dagmar. Misha looked more towards the Danish side of the family.

Just curious.  Where was it documented that Olga was Dagmar's favorite? I was under the assumption it was Xenia (although that's what I've gleaned off the forum).

[Eric_Lowe]

I think it first came out from the Ian Vorres book. Xenia married early and that took her out of the favourite list. Dagmar held on to Misha & Olga more tightly after Sasha died.

[primrose]

Actually Olga resembled her father more and that is why she was the favourite of Dagmar. Misha looked more towards the Danish side of the family.

I personally would like to see some documentation concerning this statement. Page 93, paragraph 3 in "Little Mother of Russia" by Coryne Hall indicates the opposite: "Olga would never have dreamed of going to Dagmar for comfort or  advice and she never felt at ease in her company. Dagmar was much closer to the elder children..."

And on page 185 when Dagmar decided it was time for Olga's debut she tried to dismiss Nana and appoint a lady-in-waiting: "The result was a terrible scene, with Olga threatening to run away." Nicholas took Olga's side, Dagmar was furious, and "the gulf between mother and daughter widened".

These are but two examples of the strained relations between Olga and her mother; this book and others carry many more. I don't believe that these threads are the appropriate place for 'throw-away, off-the-top-of-your-head' posts like this one. Most of us take these boards and this information seriously; if we're not professional writers and historians we are still here because we're fascinated by the subject and want to learn more. Your posts are so often nothing but litter... no substance, no style, no real information, but lots of indeed!, very nice, beautiful picture, etc.

As long as I am an active member of this community I shall call you on any posts I see that I know contain misinformation and ask for sources. It seems to me that it would be in your best interest to do your research before you post instead of lazily throwing out another bit of litter. Others have told you this over the years and you've paid no attention, but it would be nice to think that one day soon you could give your posting style serious consideration and begin to contribute in an adult manner.

  

[Ena]

I think it first came out from the Ian Vorres book. Xenia married early and that took her out of the favourite list. Dagmar held on to Misha & Olga more tightly after Sasha died.

Vorres' book states otherwise.  On page 25 (2001 edition):
"The Grand Duchess admitted the existence of a gulf between her mother and herself....'as a matter of fact, going to her rooms was a duty laid on me by Nana.  I never felt at my ease. I tried to be on my best behavior. I could never bring myself to speak naturally. She had a horror of anything beyond the frontiers of etiquette and propriety'".

[Svetabel]

Actually Olga resembled her father more and that is why she was the favourite of Dagmar. 

She never was a fave of Dagmar, according to all sources.

[Carolath Habsburg]

i agree with Svetabel. I had that perception when i read Vorres`s book.

[kmerov]

I don't think there is much doubt that for instance MF and GDss Xenia were much more alike, although I havn't read anything from MF stating who was her favorite. Many authors say that GD Mikhail was the favorite, but I think most of the children have been called so at one point or another.

[Eric_Lowe]

Yes. Especially she needed them (especially Floppy & Olga) after her husband's death. She meant to keep Olga unmarried like Toria to her sister Alexandra.

[Ally Kumari]

I don't think there is much doubt that for instance MF and GDss Xenia were much more alike, although I havn't read anything from MF stating who was her favorite. Many authors say that GD Mikhail was the favorite, but I think most of the children have been called so at one point or another.

In "Camera and the Tsars" is a short quote from one of Marie´s letters to her father:
"Little Misha is so sweet and affectionate and could almost be my favourite if I were not against making any difference. I love all of them alike, but each in his own way."