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Re: Olga/Tatiana's room
« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2007, 10:15:40 AM »
Sarushka, what is the provenance of those water colors, i.e., do you know who created them, and the date of their creation?

Yes, they were painted in 1931, just before the children's rooms were dismantled. I'm sorry I don't recall the artist's name just now. There were 12 paintings originally, but so far I've only been able to find nine.

Here's an old thread about them:
Interior watercolors of the AP

It appears a number of my images on that thread have disappeared from my ImageShack account. Poo.  :P

The revolutionaries must have distroyed their rooms after they left to Toblsk.

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Re: Olga/Tatiana's room
« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2007, 10:50:32 AM »
The revolutionaries must have distroyed their rooms after they left to Toblsk.

No, they didn't. The AP was used as a museum for some time to display the IF's personal quarters, which is why there are long strips of carpeting running door-to-door in many of the photos of NAOTMAA's rooms. That carpet wasn't original. It was laid out especially for the museum traffic.

The children's rooms were also used to house orphans for a while -- that's why you can see a baby crib in the photograph of the little pair's bedroom and Aleksei's bedroom. As I said in my previous post, the children's rooms were not dismantled until 1931.

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« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2007, 11:13:15 AM »
The revolutionaries must have distroyed their rooms after they left to Toblsk.

No, they didn't. The AP was used as a museum for some time to display the IF's personal quarters, which is why there are long strips of carpeting running door-to-door in many of the photos of NAOTMAA's rooms. That carpet wasn't original. It was laid out especially for the museum traffic.

The children's rooms were also used to house orphans for a while -- that's why you can see a baby crib in the photograph of the little pair's bedroom and Aleksei's bedroom. As I said in my previous post, the children's rooms were not dismantled until 1931.
Thanks for the information Sarushka. But so the rooms were dismantled after the 1930's that is not good. I wonder how the rooms look today.
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Re: Olga/Tatiana's room
« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2007, 10:33:58 AM »
Now that we've seen Olga/Tatiana room

does anyone have pics of Maria/Anastasia's room

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« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2007, 10:53:20 AM »
Now that we've seen Olga/Tatiana room

does anyone have pics of Maria/Anastasia's room
http://www.alexanderpalace.org/palace/mariaana.html
Here is the information about Maria and Anastasia's bedroom plus two pictures of it the photograph taken when the palace was a museum in the 1920's and watercolor from the 1930's.

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« Reply #20 on: July 01, 2007, 01:23:35 PM »
http://www.alexanderpalace.org/palace/mariaana.html
Here is the information about Maria and Anastasia's bedroom plus two pictures of it the photograph taken when the palace was a museum in the 1920's and watercolor from the 1930's.

As I said before, I'm pretty sure that watercolor is actually Olga and Tatiana's bedroom. Maria and Anastasia's bedroom had grey walls with cabbage roses and butterflies along the ceiling. This room has pink walls with morning glories and dragonflies -- like Olga and Tatiana's.


I can't see the photo directly above the watercolor on that page. Can someone please repost it here so I can have a look?

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« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2007, 09:23:32 PM »
The watercolors are of a nice quality. They could certainly restore the rooms with the help of these (and a few photos, of course)!

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Re: Olga/Tatiana's room
« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2007, 07:39:23 AM »
Sarushka, what is the provenance of those water colors, i.e., do you know who created them, and the date of their creation?

Yes, they were painted in 1931, just before the children's rooms were dismantled. I'm sorry I don't recall the artist's name just now.

I've found there was more than one artist of the watercolors: Yuri Neprintsev and Anatoly Yar-Kravchenko.

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« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2007, 02:07:50 PM »
Many thanks, Sarushka!  :D

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Re: Olga/Tatiana's room
« Reply #24 on: July 09, 2007, 06:43:19 PM »
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The children's rooms were also used to house orphans for a while -- that's why you can see a baby crib in the photograph of the little pair's bedroom and Aleksei's bedroom. As I said in my previous post, the children's rooms were not dismantled until 1931.

 Actually, the cribs are those of the younger imperial children. As they obviously took their campbeds with them, these were used for the museum.

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Re: Olga/Tatiana's room
« Reply #25 on: October 01, 2007, 12:17:00 PM »
Ìîæåò êòî-òî íå âèäåë â  ëüáîì õ À.Âûðóáîâîé. Ñï ëüíÿ Îëüãè è Ò òüÿíû âî âðåìÿ áîëåçíè Ò òüÿíû â 1913 ãîäó.

Someone can did not see in A.Vyrubovoj's albums. Olga and Tatyana's bedroom during Tatyana's illness in 1913.

http://pushkin-history.info/fotoalbom/2349.html


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Re: Olga/Tatiana's room
« Reply #26 on: October 01, 2007, 12:51:32 PM »
Geglov, that's not Olga and Tatiana's room. That's just the sickroom. You can tell because in the picture Tatiana is laying on a real bed and the girls only had their camp beds in their bedroom. OTMA got to sleep on a real bed when they were sick.

I also thought the cribs in the picture of MA's room were cribs used by the children when they were younger.
Why do all the websites from the Alexander Palace Time Machine always label that watercolor of OT's room as MA's room?? Obviously it's OT's room.
"Господь им дал дар по молитвам их размягчать окаменелые наши сердца за их страдания..Мне думается, что если люди будут молиться Царской Cемье, оттают сердца с Божией помощью."

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« Reply #27 on: October 01, 2007, 01:00:13 PM »
I was about to ask why the walls were so devoid of decoration, but now I know! And I also noted the thick mattress, though the bed frame itself is not particularly fancy. As far as I can tell, the only cheerful note--at least in the black-and-white photo--are the drapes and matching linens . . . featuring the same pattern, I believe, as appears in Alexandra's mauve boudoir.

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Re: Olga/Tatiana's room
« Reply #28 on: October 01, 2007, 02:57:11 PM »
Ñîãë ñåí, ÷òî-òî íå òî.
It agree, something not that.

Ïîñìîòðèì í  ïë í
Let's look at the plan

http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php/topic,6197.60.html



Í  ôîòî
On a photo
http://pushkin-history.info/fotoalbom-old-1-/2919.html

Ñâåò è îêíî ñïð â  è äâåðü
Light and window on the right and a door

Êîìí òû ¹ 11, 5 è 6 íå ïîäõîäÿò.
Rooms ¹ 11, 5 and 6 do not approach.

Í  ôîòî
On a photo

http://pushkin-history.info/fotoalbom-old-1-/2942.html

Îòîïëåíèå â óãëó, äâåðü ïî÷òè ïî öåíòðó â îáùèé êîðèäîð, ãð äóñíèê.
Heating in a corner, a door almost on the center in the general corridor, a thermometer.

Êîìí òû ¹ 12, 11 è 9 íå ïîäõîäÿò.
Rooms ¹ 12, 11 and 9 do not approach.

Îñò þòñÿ ¹ 8 è 7.
Remain ¹ 8 and 7.
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Re: Olga/Tatiana's room
« Reply #29 on: October 01, 2007, 03:25:34 PM »
http://pushkin-history.info/fotoalbom-old-1-/2919.html

Äâåðü ñòîèò íå â ïåðåãîðîäêå,   â ê ïèò ëüíîé ñòåíå. Ýòî íå ñï ëüíÿ äðóãèõ ñèñò¸ð. Äóì þ ýòî ¹ 7. Áîëåçíü áðþøíîé òèô, í äî èçîëèðîâ òü.

The door costs not in a partition, and in a main wall. It not a bedroom of others ñèñò¸ð. I think it ¹ 7. A belly typhus, it is necessary to isolate illness.