Olga/Tatiana's room

[Geglov2-3]

Âîò òåáå è ðàç.
Here to you and time.

Äíåâíèê Íèêîëàÿ II - 1913.
Nikolay's diary II - 1913.

Äåíü ðîæäåíèÿ íåçàáâåííîãî äîðîãîãî Ïàïà.  10 ÷àñ. ïðèíÿë Ñóõîìëèíîâà.
Ïîáûë ó Òàòüÿíû è ïîãóëÿë íåìíîãî. Ê ñëóæáå ïðèåõàë â 11 1/2 ä. Ïàâåë, êîò. ïîçàâòðàêàë ñ íàìè.  2 ÷àñà áûëà ïàíèõèäà â êðåïîñòè. Ìàìà çàåõàëà â Çèìíèé ïðîâîäèòü íàñ.  3 ÷àñà ìû ïåðååõàëè â Öàðñêîå Ñåëî. Øåë ìîêðûé ñíåã. Îòäåëèëè Òàòüÿíó è ïîìåñòèëè åå ðÿäîì ñ áîëüøîé èãðàëüíîé. Îáîøåë ñ óäîâîëüñòâèåì âåñü ïàðê.  6 ÷àñ. ïðèíÿë Ñàçîíîâà è ïîñïåë ê íà÷àëó åôèìîí [ 1 ]. Îáåäàëè îäíè. Çàíèìàëñÿ äîëãî è çàòåì ÷èòàë âñëóõ.

Have separated Tatyana and have placed it near to big playing

Òîãäà ýòà ñïàëüíÿ Ìàðèè è Àíàñòàñèè.
Then Maria and Anastas's this bedroom.

[Holly]

Sorry Geglov, but I'm having trouble understanding your English. =[
The room Tatiana was in was the sickroom. It was only used for that purpose.

[Geglov2-3]

Èçâèíèòå, ñêîðåå âñåãî ýòî ñïàëüíÿ Ìàðèè è Àíàñòàñèè, ïî ïëàíó êàìèí â óãëó ó íèõ.
Excuse, most likely it is Maria and Anastas's bedroom, under the plan a fireplace in a corner at them.

[Sarushka]

I agree with Holly. Maria and Anastasia's bedroom was also heavily decorated iwth icons and photographs on the wall. They did not use brass beds. They slept on striped army cots. Here is a photo of the Little Pair's bedroom:



You can see the walls in M&A's bedroom were gray with a border of cabbage roses and butterflies painted along the ceiling. In the photos Geglov posted, there is no border. Also, the moulding around the doorway in the Little Pair's bedroom does not match the doorways in Geglov's photos.

[Janet_W.]

And at this point I think it's a good idea to mention, as was discussed on previous threads, that "belly-typhus" is best identified in English as  typhoid; apparently Tatiana became infected with typhoid after drinking a beverage made with unsanitary water. 

[Holly]

Yes, I think it was an orange drink that Tatiana got typhoid from.

The bedroom wasn't Maria and Anastasia's. It doesn't resemble it in the slightest! Nothing in that room looks like MA's room. There wouldn't be a brass bed, there wouldn't be bare walls and Tatiana wouldn't be in Maria and Anastasia's bedroom if she was sick!

[Olishka~ Pincess]

Yes Holly that is right I was reading somewhere that Alix would not allow her children to leave the bed while they are sick. So Tatiana was not in Anastasia and Maria's bedroom. The room she is in does not look anything like the photo of Anastasia and Maria's bedroom we normally see. The room looks empty and plain. I realy think, that was the room where they all was whenever they were sick. I recall, it may be so that Olga was in that same room, some time afterward sick. She had two long ponytail braids. I also saw another with Alix's friend, Anya sick in a room with the telephone in there. They were sleeping on regular beds, while they were sick. I thought OTMA, slept regularly on cot beds.

[Sarushka]

I recall, it may be so that Olga was in that same room, some time afterward sick. She had two long ponytail braids.

Here's the photo. It was taken in Olga & Tatiana's bedroom. You can see the cot and the icons.

I also saw another with Alix's friend, Anya sick in a room with the telephone in there.

(The other photos of Anya when she was ill were taken in her own home, after her railway accident in 1915.)

[Geglov2-3]

À ìîæåò ïîâåðèòü äíåâíèêó Íèêîëàÿ II, êîòîðûé ïèñàë âå÷åðîì â òîò æå äåíü 1913 ãîäà.
And can believe Nikolay's II to diary which wrote in the evening this very day 1913.

[Geglov2-3]

1898 èç Êîíöåðòíîãî çàëà äåëàþò Ïàðàäíûé êàáèíåò è Êëåíîâóþ ãîñòèíóþ. À íà âòîðîì ýòàæå ïîÿâëÿþòñÿ êîìíàòû ñïàëåí.
1912 áûëè óêðåïëåíû âñå ïåðåêðûòèÿ ( âåðõíèå ) Äåòñêîé ïîëîâèíû 2-ãî ýòàæà ( 14 ëåò ìåæäó ðåìîíòàìè ). Ýòî ôîòî ïîñëå ðåìîíòà. Âñå ìû èíîãäà äåëàåì ðåìîíò äîìà. Òàòüÿíà íà÷àëà áîëåòü â íà÷àëå ãîäà 1913. Ïîýòîìó òàêîé áåäíûé âèä êîìíàòû.
Ñ óâàæåíèåì Íèêîëàé.

1898 of the Concert hall do the Smart cabinet and the Maple drawing room. And on the second floor there are rooms of bedrooms.
1912 overlappings (top) Children's half 2-nd floor (14 years between repairs) have been strengthened all. It is a photo after repair. All we sometimes do repair of the house. Tatyana has started to hurt in the beginning of year 1913. Therefore such poor kind of a room.
Yours faithfully Nikolay.

[Geglov2-3]

Òåëåôîí ýòî ñêîðåå âíóòðåííèé ñ åãî ïîìîùüþ ìîæíî ïîçâîíèòü â ïîäâàë è ðàñïîðÿäèòüñÿ î èçìåíåíèè òåìïåðàòóðû â êîìíàòå. Ýòî ïîìèìî îòîïëåíèÿ äðîâàìè.

Phone it more likely internal with its help it is possible to call in a cellar and to dispose about change of temperature in a room. It besides heating by fire wood.

Îòîïëåíèå óñòàíîâëåí 1900-1901 ôèðìîé Ô.Ñàí-Ãàëëè.
Heating it is established by 1900-1901 firm F.San-Galli.

[Olishka~ Pincess]

I recall, it may be so that Olga was in that same room, some time afterward sick. She had two long ponytail braids.

Here's the photo. It was taken in Olga & Tatiana's bedroom. You can see the cot and the icons.

(The other photos of Anya when she was ill were taken in her own home, after her railway accident in 1915.)

I also saw another with Alix's friend, Anya sick in a room with the telephone in there.

Thank you ! very much Sarushka for displaying the photos I was describing I appreciate that very much! Exactly what I had in mind. I made a mistake where I said that that photo was taken in the same room Tatiana was when she was sick. I  did not know that photo was taken in her and Tatiana's room in 1916, thankd for the information Sarushka. I am not sure myself, becuase I also seen that photo of Anastasia when she had her eyes crossed and I believe I saw Olga laying in the bed in the background while Anastasia was in Olga and Tatiana's bedroom.

[Sarushka]

I am not sure myself, becuase I also seen that photo of Anastasia when she had her eyes crossed and I believe I saw Olga laying in the bed in the background while Anastasia was in Olga and Tatiana's bedroom.

I'm pretty sure that's actually Maria in the background, but because of the wallpaper over Maria's cot I don't think it was taken in either of the girls' bedrooms at the AP:


Perhaps Peterhof or Livadia?

[Geglov2-3]

http://pushkin-history.info/fotoalbom/9997.html

1917.

[Olishka~ Pincess]

I am not sure myself, becuase I also seen that photo of Anastasia when she had her eyes crossed and I believe I saw Olga laying in the bed in the background while Anastasia was in Olga and Tatiana's bedroom.

I'm pretty sure that's actually Maria in the background, but because of the wallpaper over Maria's cot I don't think it was taken in either of the girls' bedrooms at the AP:



Perhaps Peterhof or Livadia?

Yes, thats it thank you Sarushka your the best! I was talking about that photo. Anyway thanks for letting me know who was in there I did not know it was Maria, I always thought it was Olga. Yes your right. I do not think it was taken at the Alexander Palace it was taken in Lividia. Since, I never seen a picture of the girls bedroom at Lividia before I did not know.

Thanks again.