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Re: Rare Pictures IV
« Reply #30 on: July 23, 2007, 10:37:40 PM »
Those are super, nena! So nice and clear.


NII, A.F. and Olga, Mogilev, Dnieper river, 1916:
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I'm pretty sure that's Sabline on the left.

It is Sablin not Sabline.

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Re: Rare Pictures IV
« Reply #31 on: July 24, 2007, 12:07:55 AM »
It's taken from French way of writing. I'm used to it. French people writes "Sabline" for if not, in their language, it sounds like "Sablén" to them. Is for this same reason that in French history books, you'll find "Lenine" and "Staline" and not "Stalin" and "Lenin".  ;) The true way of writing "Sablin" is in cyrillic characters, anyway... ;D

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Re: Rare Pictures IV
« Reply #32 on: July 24, 2007, 12:56:08 AM »
It's taken from French way of writing. I'm used to it. French people writes "Sabline" for if not, in their language, it sounds like "Sablén" to them.  ;D

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Indeed the French version was used RealAnastasia, and that is what I find so annoying. Why must some continue to prefer to write Russian surnames in their French translation when writing in English?   ???

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Re: Rare Pictures IV
« Reply #33 on: July 24, 2007, 08:13:42 AM »
It's taken from French way of writing. I'm used to it. French people writes "Sabline" for if not, in their language, it sounds like "Sablén" to them.  ;D

RealAnastasia.

Indeed the French version was used RealAnastasia, and that is what I find so annoying. Why must some continue to prefer to write Russian surnames in their French translation when writing in English?   ???

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That is pretty ridiculous. How is it that French transliterations (and terminology) became so firmly entrenched in the western literature regarding imperial Russian history? The French equivalents are repeated over and over, making westerners look like idiots as we repeat them.
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Re: Rare Pictures IV
« Reply #34 on: July 24, 2007, 03:57:52 PM »
There are also different transliterations in German, we write for example Tatjana, Alexej, Romanow

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Re: Rare Pictures IV
« Reply #35 on: July 24, 2007, 05:32:01 PM »
There are also different transliterations in Serbia, too, we write:
Serbian:
Олгa Татјанa Маријa Анастасијa Алексеј
Russian:
Ольга Татьяна Мария Анастасия Алексей
What do you think, Russian and Serbian are almost the same language  ;)
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Re: Rare Pictures IV
« Reply #36 on: July 24, 2007, 07:24:53 PM »
Well, here in my country, people mixes all time English words in their conversations (a think I find pretty anoying, and snobish) and it's the same in all Western world nowadays...and anyone makes any fuss about the "Englisation" of language, if you allows me to use an invented word.

But I think that the main reason for some people using the French way to speak about the Romanovs is that some interesting books about them where published in France soon after Russian Revolution. French people developped a great fascination about Romanovs and that's there for something. Other very known case of French influence is the "Sissi" one. We pronounced the Empress name puting all the emphasis in the last part of the name, when in German, the original language of this historical character it happens exactly the opposite. Besides, the correct way of writing Elizabeth of Austria nickname is "Sisi". She, herself signed this way. The reason we put the second "s" is the name pronunciation in French. Two "s" is a soft sound, but just one is heavier...However, nowadays, any of us will write "Sisi".

The other reason the Russian names could appear written in French way is that the person who writes them could be...simply French, and make a mistake whithout meaning it, or whithout even realizing it. So, why can't we live in peace with others? I understand perfectly when someone writes "Tatjana", and I know why, she/he writes this way. No real problem with it.

The correct way of writing these names are only one: using cyrillic alphabet , But I don't think we need it, We all understand what the other is saying, and if not, we can always ask. Here there is a lot of people whose first language is not English (like me), and could make mistakes...so, it's better to help them, inestead of scold them.

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Re: Rare Pictures IV
« Reply #37 on: July 24, 2007, 09:34:52 PM »
Or perhaps because the court language was officially French?
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Re: Rare Pictures IV
« Reply #38 on: July 24, 2007, 10:18:03 PM »
AIII Russianized the Court and NII followed in the same vein.

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Re: Rare Pictures IV
« Reply #39 on: July 25, 2007, 06:22:54 AM »
Some more pictures from Nena;
Aleksei, ca.1909:

Not Romanov photo, but perhaps rare?:

Olga and Tatiana , 1913:

Perhaps rare picrures, or not?  :(
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Re: Rare Pictures IV
« Reply #40 on: July 25, 2007, 07:16:08 AM »
Some more pictures from Nena;

Not Romanov photo, but perhaps rare?:



Thank you for all your photos Nena,

The photo that I have isolated above is not rare. I have a similar one in color. It is the site of the Ekaterinburg Romanov Memorial.

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Re: Rare Pictures IV
« Reply #41 on: July 26, 2007, 09:05:03 AM »
I don't love Rah-Rah Rasputin, but some pics. of him, perhaps rare:


1914:

Yusupov and Rasputin, december 1916( of course, not photo  ;) :

Found at cellar/basement room, signature of Andres Vergas, guard, 15 july, 1918:

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Re: Rare Pictures IV
« Reply #42 on: July 26, 2007, 09:11:46 AM »

Found at cellar/basement room, signature of Andres Vergas, guard, 15 july, 1918:

Aw, sorry, not found at cellar room, I feel so  stupid! It was found somewhere on Ipatiev wall's. Forgive me, please!
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Re: Rare Pictures IV
« Reply #43 on: July 26, 2007, 09:19:49 AM »
VERY RARE TO ME:

I just don't know where and when this pic. was taken?
OT, 1913:

(I know everyone have seen this photo, but, perhaps rare)
Terrible:

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Re: Rare Pictures IV
« Reply #44 on: July 26, 2007, 07:27:33 PM »
Perhaps rare:
dr. Botkin and admiral Chagin, 1912, Standart:
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