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Re: Any portraits of Comtesse de Noailles?
« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2007, 03:09:34 PM »



Anne Claude Louise d' Arpajon was born on March 4, 1729. She was carried out on June 27, 1794, in Paris, at the 65 years age.

She is the girl of Louis d' Arpajon (1667-1736), marquis then duke with patent of Arpajon, lieutenant general, governor of Berry and Anne Charlotte the Bottom of Montargis (1695-1767), lady of the duchess of Berry.

She was married in 1741 in Philippe de Noailles (1715-1794), duke of Mouchy, Marshal of France, governor of the castles of Versailles and Marly, wire of Adrien Maurice de Noailles (1678-1766), duke of Noailles, Francoise and Marshal of France Charlotte Amable d' Aubigné (1684-1739), niece and heiress of Madam de Maintenon.

From this union were born:

Louise Henriette Filipino Charlotte of Noailles (1745-1832),
married in 1760 with Celestial Emmanuel Augustin de Durfort, duke of Durfort-Lasted (1741-1800)

Philippe Louis Marc Antoine de Noailles (1752-1819), Pitch prince and duke, duke of Mouchy
Married to Anne Louise Marie de Beauvau (1750-1834)

Louis Marie de Noailles (1756-1804), Viscount of Noailles.

Anne Claude Louise d' Arpajon, duchess and marshal's wife de Mouchy, were lady of the palate then first lady-in-waiting of the Queen Marie Antoinette who called it “Mrs Étiquette”.
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Its apartments of Versailles:

From 1741 to 1755, it settles with her husband in the residences of function known as " of the Government " located in the wing of the same name between the royal court and the passage of the vault.
The husbands have then 2 parts, 1 with chimney (apartment N° 28) and of 15 parts, 14 with chimneys including 3 obscure and 3 mezzanines including 1 with chimney (apartment N° 29).

See blondel, board 8 apartment G

This old wing is made materials of bad quality. Its structure is overloaded by the reserves of the furniture depository located in the stages. It knows recurring problems of water leakages and infiltrations. In 1748, the count de Noailles asks a visit and for repairs there.
In 1755, the condition of the wing is very bad, it asks the king to give a room to his wife in the wing of north as soon as possible. The husbands then left the wing of the government for the wing of North. This solution was to be only provisional, during work of rebuilding of the wing of the government or the count de Noailles hopes to reinstall himself with his service. This work never succeeded.

Between 1756-1758, the husbands had the apartment N° 31 at the ground floor of the wing of north in the large house close to the gallery to stone giving on the court to the opera. It counted 5 parts with chimneys then, 3 mezzanines including 1 with chimney. They took it again with the princess of Carignan.

See Blondel, board 2, apartment m

In 1756, he writes to the king: “The count de Noailles asks for Your Majesty the permission of exchange his housing on the court with Mrs. the princess of Carignan. With the help of this arrangement, it will be established as it will be able in the new government and his wife will have only one room and garde-robe while waiting for that Mrs. the duchess of Lauraguais has some another and yields to it his to him.”

In fact 3 generations of Noailles benefitted from this apartment 31 until 1786. Between 1758 and 1767, it was lent to his mother, the duchess of Arpajon, then in 1768 allotted to his beautiful daughter, the princess of Pitch and temporarily with its son the Viscount of Noailles.

It settles of 1758 to 1781 in apartments 38 and 38A located at the ground floor of the large house, just with the lower part of those of her husband (48 and 48A).
It taking again these apartments with the marchioness of Goësbriand, rams to accompany Ladies the juniors and with the duchess of Lauraguais, rams atour of the dauphine one.


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Re: Any portraits of Comtesse de Noailles?
« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2007, 03:23:49 PM »
It did not have the same madness of the mirrors that her husband It even paid them it (2 for its mezzanines and for its part of the baths). There its load of lady-in-waiting of the queen however imposed work in the apartment to be able to receive a many crowd.

In February 1766, Mr. de Noailles written to the king:
“The lady-in-waiting was perfectly well placed to come three days per month to Versailles, but holding a great state daily and having very often 25 people with supper, it is impossible to be gone back there. She can arrange herself in the apartment which she has by sacrificing her mezzanines and conveniences to the approval of the public. She is given there. Does your Majesty want to enable him well to introduce to its request at Mr. the marquis de Marigny who will take the orders of Your Majesty when it will have made him his remarks which would not be indiscreet? She wished that that could be done during Compiegne.”

That was approved but the cost of work proved to be prohibitory:
“State of the works requested by Mrs. the countess of Noailles to have a cabinet of company of a size to being able to contain the people whom it is obliged to receive at it; that which it currently has being… too small, which cannot be made u' by changing the distributions in its housing for, of the anteroom which is larger a part, to make the cabinet of company… Total 12.500 books”

The king did not judge by the way that the 12.500 books of the estimate is with the load of the only Building industries, the more so as 15.000 books were already planned for the apartment of the count de Noailles right to the top.
In a letter addressed to Louis XV, the countess of Noailles put forward then that required work, namely widening of its dining room and its room of company, was only for the good of the public and to make honor of the court by holding a great state. She also recalled the king that similar work had been begun and paid by the Building industries for other people having load at the court like the marchioness of Narbonne, rams atour Mrs Adélaïde.
The count de Noailles then offered to pay one the third of work on the expenditure of the Government. And the building site was committed. What did not prevent an expenditure complementary to 500 pounds in the count and the countess that Mr. de Noailles succeeds in charging to the services of the caretaker's lodge.

In 1778, Mr. de Noailles yields his load of governor of Versailles to his son, the Poix prince.
He then divides apartments 38 and 38A with his wife. They will be replaced there temporarily by the cardinal of Rohan, large chaplain of France.

Between 1781-1786, the countess reinstalls herself in apartment 31 of the wing of the North, which it had occupied of 1755 to 1758. She has there 6 parts including 3 with chimneys, 5 mezzanines including 1 with chimney. She finds herself beside that of her husband, N° 32.

Finally from 1786-1789, it turns over with her husband in apartments 38 and 38A made vacant by the disgrace and the exile of the cardinal of Rohan. The husbands settle in 6 parts including 4 with chimneys and 5 mezzanines including 2 with chimneys.
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Re: Any portraits of Comtesse de Noailles?
« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2007, 05:26:12 AM »
Try this page http://www.appl-lachaise.net/appl/article.php3?id_article=474.

It has a sketch of Mme Etiquette as a jeune fille.

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Re: Any portraits of Comtesse de Noailles?
« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2007, 06:55:18 AM »
I don't thnik it's the same woman... It's Anna de Noailles, who lived at the end of the XIXth c,.
Here is the maréchale:
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Re: Any portraits of Comtesse de Noailles?
« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2007, 08:04:39 AM »
Hi Lisa,  yes this is the correct drawing of Madame l'Ettiquette.  I also saw it on another French website, and now of course I cannot find the thread so that I can post the link!

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Re: Any portraits of Comtesse de Noailles?
« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2007, 09:47:48 AM »
In the multi million pound sale of the contents of the last  Viscount Leverhulme's Thornton Manor (on the Wirral, near Liverpool) a few years ago a marble topped commode with the provenace of the Mouchys couples Versaillies suite was sold.